# Talk

## Part time and bank holidays - can anyone help?

(11 Posts)
HackerFucker22 Fri 18-Mar-16 15:29:03

Person A works full time (37.5h per week) and benefits from 35 days off per year. This includes 27 days annual leave and 8 bank holidays. It is written into their employment contact that they receive annual leave PLUS bank holidays.

Person B has reduced their hours and now works part time (21 hours per week / 56% of full time hours ) so they receive prorated annual leave @ 15 days which is 56% of 27 days. They are on the same contact [ as in they should receive annual leave PLUS bank holidays] however as person B doesn’t work Monday’s they effectively loose the “benefit” of the extra time off work?

There are x2 Friday BH and x6 Monday BH in 2016.

Should person B received 56% of the x6 Monday’s based on the fact FT employees get 27 days + BH.

Google isn't helping, HR (one person) is away for the next few weeks

TIA

Stillunexpected Fri 18-Mar-16 15:34:30

Person B should receive 56% of whatever number of BH there are in the year, in this case 4.48 (so 4.5 days). Their total AL is then 15 + 4.5. They need to use AL for any BH not falling on a Monday i.e. Good Friday and sometimes Christmas Day, NY. Some years this works out well for people, depending o their non-work days, sometimes they need to use more days to cover BHs.

NotMrsTumble Fri 18-Mar-16 15:34:30

If you worked for me then I'd calculate your total annual holiday allowance (56% of 35 days), take off any bank holidays that fall on your working days e.g Christmas and then you'd have the rest as annual leave to take as and when. The flip side of this is that employees who are p/t and work on a Monday can feel short changed when I apply the same method and then tell them they have only 7 "free to take as holiday whenever they choose" days.

thatstoast Fri 18-Mar-16 15:35:58

Should person B received 56% of the x6 Monday’s based on the fact FT employees get 27 days + BH.

Fri 18-Mar-16 15:48:28

Yes. I work 60% time and am off Friday's and Monday's. I get 60% of the bank holiday allowance rolled into my holiday allowance.

Fri 18-Mar-16 15:55:47

Same as dazzling here. You should get the bank holidays pro-rata regardless of whether you work them or not.

Icklepickle101 Fri 18-Mar-16 16:08:52

Sorry to hijack but with this in mind if you were working 4 days a week would it be better to take the Monday or the Friday off?

Fri 18-Mar-16 16:32:42

This is why hourly totals for annual leave are better than daily totals.

The starting point is that part time workers must not be disadvantaged by being part time.

So full time = 35 days AL inclusive of BH.

0.6 contracted person gets 35×0.6= 21 days.

You could work out the BH hols separately:
0.6 contracted person gets 16.2 days AL and 4.8 days BH.

The fact that there are actually 6 Monday bank holidays is irrelevant. The part-time person would have to use her BH allowance plus 1.2 days of her regular AL if she was to take all 6 days as leave. A person who does Tues, Weds, Thurs, may not need to use any Al on BH. None of that affects how much you get.

Fri 18-Mar-16 17:55:57

Two tips

1. Don't separate out annual leave and bank holidays, it just makes everything unnecessarily complicated.

2. Don't mix hours and days. Either do it all in hours or do it all in days.

If Person A works 5 days a week and get a TOTAL of 35 days off, then Person B (assuming he/she works 3 days a week) must get 3/5 of that - 35/5x3=21 days in total.

Any bank holidays which fall on Person B's normal working days will need to be taken off using that total. The number that is will vary year to year for most people, due to the moveable bank holidays at Christmas and New Year.

It really is as simple as that, and mixing hours/days/percentages and trying to separate out bank holidays and normal annual leave is where it gets more complicated.

Gizlotsmum Fri 18-Mar-16 18:02:27

I work 22.5 hours compared to a full time 37 hour week, I get a proportion of the bank holidays so if 8 bank holidays I get 8/(22.5/37) so 4.8 days allowance for bank holidays. I don't normally work Monday's

SueDunome Fri 18-Mar-16 19:35:32

No, Person B should not get 56% of the x6 Monday Bank Holidays; Person B should get 56% of the full 35 days entitlement. They should then have to take the two Bank Holidays that fall on their working days out of the pro-rataed entitlement. The remainder is then their holiday to take when they choose.

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