7+ Entry to Cheltenham Private Schools(33 Posts)
We have been thinking about moving to the Cheltenham area for a little while now and
have been thinking about sending our DS to either Richard Pate or St Edwards for year 3 entry. Can anyone tell me if they have had experience of this. Are these schools quite selective. Would we need to tuition for 7+ . Any other opionions on the schools will be gratefully appreciated.
Yes, send your kids to a shite school when there are far better alternatives available, parents/pupils experiencing problems with the school are simply lying & talking rubbish
Hi Mumsfrazzled best thing to do is just go and see St Ed's - you're a Mother you will know that what is being said about the School is simply not true. Cheltenham is a very competitive town for schools and it's amazing what people will do to talk down competitor schools. All schools in Chelt are great schools and like all schools they have issues that need dealing with - children are there! But put trust in your gut feeling and when you meet the staff and pupils (and other parents) you will then know that what is being said about St Eds it quite simply rubbish.
Just seeing this forum! I have 3 children at both the Prep and Senior School. I can assure you the comments made about the Senior School are completely alien to my experience. It is a lovely friendly School, the teachers have a beautiful relationship with the students. The students themselves are such lovely people. It produces amazing results with small classes and offers breadth. I have been at the Schools for 6 years and my children are very happy there. Best thing is to go and visit the Schools - don't be put off by unfortunate comments that are really unfair and not accurate in the slightest. As a parent you always know a School when you visit it. The other thing I like is its inclusive atmosphere. We are not church goers, but the values the Schools focus on is just perfect - well rounded lovely people in a family type environment.
I moved my child to st eds and all started fantastically, both myself and my dd couldn't believe it and just thought it was too good to be true, well... Unfortunately it is too good to be true, don't go there, I have friends with children at dean close, ladies college and chelt college and they are so happy and no major complaints, I so wish I had thought of looking around more, we moved for convenience.... Big mistake and I'm now stuck with no way out unless we pay and the upheaval could mean even more disaster
Let's hopefully put this discussion on St. Edward's to bed. ISI report from 2015. isischools.devprocess.com/DownloadReport.aspx?t=c&r=GRT6959_20151124.pdf&s=6959
Excellent in all categories. I am a parent of two children at the school and some of the previous postings on this forum bear absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to what I - and I'm sure hundreds of other parents - find regarding this school. My children and their peers are caring, intelligent and well rounded children thanks to the school ethos. I would have absolutely no hesitation in recommending the school to anyone.
Hello - visited Richard Pate School with a view to my 3 year old starting in their Nursery next year, but thought the whole school was fabulous. Not many comments in this thread about Richard Pate - wondered if anyone had views or experience of this school?
I think a little perspective here is needed, I attended RPS, PGS and SEJS and know people from all of the schools in cheltenham, including many of the people who were involved in the suicides and bullying incidents.
Firstly, the spate of suicides were confined to the senior schools, and were not limited to SES, but occurred in schools across Cheltenham, that, tragically is how these things happen. SES did have a separate bullying problem that the previous headmaster failed to deal with appropriately, but many lessons have been learned since then
St Ed's has had problems in the past, certainly up until a few years ago, but a new headmistress, a serious attitude shift in terms of pastoral care and academic focus have given it a new lease of life.
Additionally SES and SEJS have gorgeous grounds, and fantastic facilities, (admittedly so do DC and CC, but these are located in the town centre, or next to main roads). SES is a great school, and I'd advise anyone to go and take a look before pre-judging.
Prospective parents, I implore you to consider all other private schools in the area, thankfully there's such a wealth of independent schools that there's no need to consider a school that will deliver sub par education with a bullying problem to boot. I attended Ribston Hall, Denmark Road High School & Kings School, all three were infinitely better despite the first two being state run and non fee paying!
And I thought this was a friendly forum!! Please do not insinuate that I am not even a parent, that is unfair..It is possible for people to have a different point of view to yours that is honest and quite simply well intentioned. Prospective parents please do have a look and form your own opinions.
And I would hate for prospective parents to send their children there & for their children to suffer the way I did. Those suicides were far less than 15 years ago, more like 5/6 years. Do you work for the school or something? Are you genuinely a parent of children who attend the school? You seem to be on all the threads where the school is mentioned defending it. I notice others have a poor opinion of St. Ed's too. You may have had a positive experience but others have not.
Sorry that you had a bad experience pink fluff.
I must, however, say that schools do change! The staff you mention have long left the school, about 15 years ago I think.
As a parent with kids there now , and a parent there since 2006, I am really happy with the caring and nurturing environment. My kids feel really supported and valued.
It is tough when you have a bad time at schooI but I would hate for prospective parents to be put off by events from the past that in no way reflect the school today.
I went to St Edwards. Horrible school, appalling pastoral care, polar opposite of the lovely independent school I had come from.
Was accused of bullying someone when I'd done no such thing, was actually badly bullied myself. A teacher called Mr Williams (who was recently in the news regarding alleged child abuse at a different school - Google it) terrified me & hauled me into his office to tell me off for bullying this girl, turns out he was a friend of the family or something & that's why he'd paid so much attention to the bullying claims. Had problems with other teachers too. When I heard two pupils had taken their lives I actually wrote a diary entry talking about it all & said I could well believe they were pushed to such extreme action. Obviously there were other things wrong too but I'm sure the school didn't help if my experience is anything to go by.
Year 10 was complete hell for me. When study leave started in May of year 11 I felt hugely relieved.
Oh! Also, I was an A* pupil in English at my other school but when I went to St Ed's they put me in bottom set for no reason I could ever work out & I was so bored & upset, huge knock to my confidence. Thankfully I was finally moved into the correct set after the Summer exams and got As for English Lang & Lit GCSE. Other things like that happened too but I won't go on.
Such a strange school.
As a happy SES and SEPS parent I feel the need to bring this up to date.. My kids have been at both schools right through from kindergarten. All still thriving and happy with outstanding pastoral care and peers encouraged to support and care for each other. Staff are incredibly caring and encouraging. Any niggles are acted upon immediately. My brood are doing very well academically and more importantly turning into well rounded, polite and caring individuals. All the children that I have met on play dates etc have been similarly decent souls
Can someone let me know what Devonshire Prep 7+ involves.
Ive had children at both Berkhampstead and CC, and I have to say the later is far superior, the facilities at Berky are very limited, especially if your child is sporty. Also they dont tend to push the children that hard until the 11+ exams come around. CC are very keen to develop the children as people rather than just the 11+ exam. Also the range and depth of after school clubs at CC are amazing. Unfortunately, I certainly wouldnt recommend berky
Looking at Deans Close for our DC but worried about the entrance exam, has anyone got any advice.
I know lots of people who have taken kids put of Berko and moved them to Dean Close. Regardig selectivity: none are so they let any ability in. Tests are merely for setting.
I have had a terrible experience with St Edwards. Themoleman - would love to hear from you.
themoleman - get out of there now would be my honest advice. You would not be the only one to have had to do this in recent years.
Dean Close, Cheltenham College, Richard Pates and Berkhampsted are all very good schools, although RP and Berkhampsted both only go up to y6. Afaik none of them are ridiculously competitive as most tend to have been there from reception so it would likely be a case of which have places available.
I live quite close to Dean Close. My DCs don't go there, but I have a friend whose DD is in their pre-prep and she (friend and DD actually) are very happy with it.
Dean Close and Cheltenham College are better schools than the ones mentioned. Pastoral care at the former is very high. I have three kids at DC and my sister as 1 kid at CC.
We have a serious bullying issue at St Edwards against our daughter and would welcome hearing from anyone else experiencing past of present issues.
I absolutely am not! I am shocked and horrified and amazed to read this.
I genuinely thought you meant that there was just a bit of a problem and you would reply along the lines of, 'no, of course not, it's just that my friend's ds was unhappy there and so he moved.'
I would have no idea about it since I live outside the area and didn't hear it reported. I would never think to make a joke about something so serious. I would imagine though, that if it were true, that there would've been an investigation and the school's anti-bullying policy would have been revised to reflect its findings.
Are you taking the p**s yogabird? Can't tell...
I think that was the suggestion, yes. Dreadful - two young people who took their own lives in pretty horrific ways.
you surely don't mean the deaths are related to bullying do you?
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