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mallet Thu 23-Oct-08 20:19:54

does anyone know how long year 2 children are meant to have a qualified teacher with them in a week?

AbbeyA Fri 24-Oct-08 08:15:37

I think you need to give some more information. Is it a state school? Are you talking about them being left with a TA?

mallet Sat 25-Oct-08 15:36:16

Yes it is a state school, and should they have a qualified teacher all day every day or can they have whole days with teaching assistants?

ratherbesleeping Sat 25-Oct-08 15:48:36

Some schools use cover supervisors (TA's with some additional training) to cover classes. The work will have been planned by the teacher but delivered by theTA. However I would be concerned if this was happening on anything other than a v occasional basis eg to cover whilst teacher on a course.

SqueakyPop Sat 25-Oct-08 15:52:10

ISTR that if a teacher absence is known to be more than three days, they should use a supply teacher rather than a HLTA or CS.

SqueakyPop Sat 25-Oct-08 15:52:11

ISTR that if a teacher absence is known to be more than three days, they should use a supply teacher rather than a HLTA or CS.

pointygravedogger Sat 25-Oct-08 15:53:20

in scotland - never

mallet Sat 25-Oct-08 20:46:29

Hi Squeakypop
please excuse my ignorance but what is ISTR HLTA and CS?

SqueakyPop Sat 25-Oct-08 20:51:11

I seem to remember

High level teaching assistant

Cover supervisor

mallet Sat 25-Oct-08 20:55:35


AbbeyA Sat 25-Oct-08 23:06:49

I think they should have a qualified teacher all the time, except for odd times of up to 30mins.

mallet Sun 26-Oct-08 12:19:14

I am concerned as my son's teacher only seems to be there 1/2 day Monday, all tuesday,wendesday and thursday and not at all on a friday. Last week as she was ill he only had a qualified teacher for 1 day.I know sickness can't be helped but the general opinion is that the school dosen't have enough money for supply teachers, but is it really true that he should only have a qualified teacher for 3 1/2 days as the norm?

wheresthehamster Sun 26-Oct-08 12:25:18

How do you know the person taking the class wasn't qualified?

mallet Sun 26-Oct-08 20:08:03

I was told by another mother at the school who is also a governor

CandleQueen Sun 26-Oct-08 20:14:46

The work should be planned by teacher and can be delivered by HLTA but I would argue that 30% of the week is unreasonable.
(Five days a week, morning and afternoon sessions, therefore 1/2 day Monday and all day friday = 30%)
Our school can't afford supply, but Head covers classes if teacher out all day, with support from HLTA when he has to go off and do "head teacher type things"

Littlefish Mon 27-Oct-08 21:04:03

AbbeyA - all teachers are entitled to 10% of the week as non-contact time for planning, preparation and assessment (PPA time). This can be covered by Teaching Assistants or Higher Level Teaching Assistants. Schools do not have to provide qualified teachers to cover PPA time.

AbbeyA Tue 28-Oct-08 17:09:37

Schools should provide qualified teachers to cover PPA time IMO. I spent 1 yr doing that job throughout a school. Now that I have finished another qualified teacher has taken over.

AbbeyA Tue 28-Oct-08 17:11:50

Some schools are using HLTAs because it is cheaper-that is the only reason.

TheFallenMadonna Tue 28-Oct-08 17:15:27

Well, my ds's teacher's PPA time isn't covered by qualified teachers. It's covered by a language specialist, a dance specialist and a PE specialist. I think it works very well.

TheFallenMadonna Tue 28-Oct-08 17:16:55

They're not TAs, they're instructors.

DD gets a HLTA one afternoon a week. She is in reception. I think is also fine.

AbbeyA Tue 28-Oct-08 17:23:45

I have no problem with the use of specialists. Does the TA plan the work?

TheFallenMadonna Tue 28-Oct-08 17:30:30

No idea blush

She is vastly experienced and I wouldn't mind if she did actually. She does good stuff with them for sure.

AbbeyA Tue 28-Oct-08 17:35:48

If the teacher is having PPA time they shouldn't be planning the cover lesson-they should leave it all to the teacher.

AbbeyA Tue 28-Oct-08 17:36:43

Sorry-the teacher covering their PPA time.

TheFallenMadonna Tue 28-Oct-08 17:38:47

Then I'm sure that's how it is.

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