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surely this is evidence that state funded faith schools are run by total nutters

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Reallytired Wed 24-Sep-08 21:49:06

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7633761.stm

I cannot understand why a school should not want to be involved in the vacination programme against cervial cancer. It may be true that the HPV is sexually transmitted, but a good catholic wife could end up with cervial cancer if her husband has an affair.

Prehaps the catholic school governors think that cervial cancer is a well deserved punishment, in the same way that a few strange people thought that homosexuals deserved AIDS.

Should such people be allowed run state funded schools. Especially as the mainstream Catholic Church doesn't object to the vaccine.

Peachy Wed 24-Sep-08 21:51:40

Is this oe schol or all of them?

if its the lot its awful; if not though its a bit mean to slate the lot who, I presume, are having the jab?

barmy though: you coould catch the (is it hpv?) virus through marital sex, rape.... its not just 14 year olds on the scrumpy

princessglitter Wed 24-Sep-08 21:58:45

I work at this school...

TheFallenMadonna Wed 24-Sep-08 22:00:06

Talk to me then princessglitter, because I am a (practising) Catholic and this makes me angry.

princessglitter Wed 24-Sep-08 22:00:53

It is one of the best state schools in the country, but run by nutters? No comment wink

princessglitter Wed 24-Sep-08 22:02:18

I can't say too much - I disagree with the policy and my own children will certainly have the vaccine, but am not sure of their reasoning. Am not management, so my opinion not important.

TheFallenMadonna Wed 24-Sep-08 22:06:08

Ah well, shall let you off then smile

littlelapin Wed 24-Sep-08 22:13:54

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TheFallenMadonna Wed 24-Sep-08 22:19:09

Ooops. Have fallen for the spin then. And radio 4 said it was a catholic school.

However, parents can choose not to have their child vaccinated, at school or at all. I do wonder why the governors feel the need to make the decision.

canofworms Wed 24-Sep-08 22:19:47

LL - what about the other vaccines given in school then?

Do you think they should be banned as well?

As for waiting around after the vaccines - how many of you did? (Not that it's recommended any more anyway). At least in a school they're not going to wander off.

TheFallenMadonna Wed 24-Sep-08 22:23:00

Mind you, I did have one child throw up all over the desk when I merely described the BCG, si I'm not sure schools are the right place for vaccinations either. Not while I'm teaching anyway...

onager Wed 24-Sep-08 22:24:29

Is this is the only school in the country that's objecting? and they are doing so on medical grounds?

They are not just saying have it done at the surgery. "they question the effectiveness of the injections?"

Really? Would that be the expert medical opinion of the headmaster.

Reallytired Wed 24-Sep-08 22:27:14

"I think the vaccine is an excellent idea, but it should be administered in a medical environment, not an education one. What is going to happen if a child has a severe reaction? "

I the governors would not object to the MMR or the BCG being administered to children.

Anyway this vaccine has been throughly tested and the alternative is taking the child to the GP. If a child had a severe reaction then they would be taken to hospital as there is not a lot a GP could do that a school nurse couldn't.

The sad thing is that this decision could result in women dying needlessly from a cruel disease in 20 years time.

littlelapin Wed 24-Sep-08 23:14:27

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islandofsodor Wed 24-Sep-08 23:32:29

What other vaccines given in school. I didn't think any vaccines were given in school these days.

I agree with the policy. I want my children to have their vaccines in a surgery where I am in attendance.

littlelapin Wed 24-Sep-08 23:39:01

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Spatz Wed 24-Sep-08 23:43:45

School nurses in Camden primary schools are doing BCG vaccines because it's a 'high risk' area for TB! The nurse was planning to jab my 7 yr old without inviting me along - madness.

cupsoftea Wed 24-Sep-08 23:47:05

imho - vaccines should be given out of school by the gp not in a school. My dds will never be vaccinated at school.

littlelapin Wed 24-Sep-08 23:47:57

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onager Wed 24-Sep-08 23:57:33

>>Last year Monsignor John Allen, one of the governors, voiced the moral objections: "Morally it seems to be a sticking-plaster response. Parents must consider the knock-on effect of encouraging sexual promiscuity. Instead of taking it for granted that teenagers will engage in sexual activity, we can offer a vision of a full life keeping yourself for a lifelong partnership in marriage.>>

littlelapin Thu 25-Sep-08 00:10:13

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littlelapin Thu 25-Sep-08 07:53:27

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onager Thu 25-Sep-08 10:00:29

That did sound like they had allowed it, but elsewhere in the same letter it mentions that the pilot study took place at a local clinic (just happened to include some girls who were their pupils) and they only know what was described to them afterwards by some of the girls.

Miffyinsurrey Thu 25-Sep-08 10:09:14

I worry about the number of vaccines they give out these days.

Obviously I would not like my DD to get cancer. However what is in the vaccine? It doesn't seem that natural to me to bombard childrens bodies with so many vaccines.

onager Thu 25-Sep-08 10:23:26

There is another thread on here somewhere on the vaccine itself. It may have more details. Whether or not you want your child to have it is a parents decision not the schools.

This school seems to have a religious/moral objection. The spokesman for the governers said so before. Now they are stressing health reasons because they know they are on shaky ground.

Their claim that the vaccine is ineffective seems ludicrous since the governers only know what they read in the paper just like the rest of us. If they spread that around with scare stories about 'side effects' to justify their objection then they going to put other people off taking it.

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