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Where are the grammar school areas?

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compo Sun 21-Sep-08 11:07:18

I thought it was just Kent and Devon that still had the 11+.
Am i wrong?

jimjamshaslefttheyurt Sun 21-Sep-08 11:10:45

see here

LIZS Sun 21-Sep-08 11:11:57

Bucks and Lincolnshire do

FeelingOld Sun 21-Sep-08 11:54:42

Definitely Lincolnshire cos thats where I live

compo Sun 21-Sep-08 11:55:28

it seems odd to me that some places have the 11+ and some don't

AbbeyA Sun 21-Sep-08 12:00:11

Salisbury, Reading, Penrith, Lancaster-just off the top of my head.
It isn't odd-they were all supposed to go comprehensive but some places managed to retain them. I am very thankful that we moved to a fully comrehensive area before the eldest got to 11yrs.

wheresthehamster Sun 21-Sep-08 12:02:08

Essex has a few - Southend area and Chelmsford are two towns that I know of

LucyJones Sun 21-Sep-08 12:03:14

it seems to be a good idea if your dc are bright enough to go to them , but not if they aren't

RustyBear Sun 21-Sep-08 12:09:51

Reading only has one boys'& one girls' grammar which have their own different entrance exams, rather than a borough-wide 11+
There used to be a couple of schools that selected a percentage on academic merit - not sure if they still do.

SlartyBartFast Sun 21-Sep-08 12:12:08

but even if they are bright they need coaching, i believe, to get in, and you have to pay for that, so it is totally unfair, imo

psychomum5 Sun 21-Sep-08 12:13:16

we have grammar schools in bournemouth and poole (dorset).

RustyBear Sun 21-Sep-08 12:13:52

DS got in without any coaching, he just did a couple of practice papers, which cost about £10 iirc.

AbbeyA Sun 21-Sep-08 12:18:52

I think that is the way that it should be done RustyBear-just a couple of papers to get the feel and then he is obviously bright enough if he passed. It shouldn't be done through excessive coaching IMO.

mote Sun 21-Sep-08 12:20:24

Trafford, near Manchester.
Birmingham has the King Edwards Foundation with several schools.

solo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:23:47

Is it that some areas call it the 11+ and others call it selective testing?

Reallytired Sun 21-Sep-08 12:29:25

Kingston-upn-thames have Tiffans boys and Tiffans girls schools. Watford, Hertfordshire has Watford boys, Watford girls and Parmitars.

The problem with grammar schools is that the state school kids have to compete against those who have been sent to prep school. Its not a matter of passing, its a matter of being in the top 90 out of how ever many of thousands of children who take the exam.

I would like a system of where the bottom 20% of children were removed from the comprehensive system and had lots of resources thrown at them rather than removing the top 20%. You could have a mixture of units with mainstream schools were the nice but illiterate kids could be intensively taught to read and the kids with terrible behaviour sent somewhere else where they can't wreck anyone's education.

Then the 80% of kids without learning difficulties could make good progress.

beautifuldays Sun 21-Sep-08 12:30:47

rugby does, so does birmingham

bagsforlife Sun 21-Sep-08 12:34:30

Gloucestershire. Grammar schools in Gloucester (2 girls and 2 boys), Stroud (one of each), Cheltenham (one mixed). But v g comprehensives too.

solo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:35:13

Reallytired, that is a great idea, but totally politically in correct. It's the ones with bad behaviour that would draw attention to that fact too.

One of my local schools has a 'Grammar Stream' within it. Sounds like what you are talking about...

solo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:35:50


charmander Sun 21-Sep-08 12:41:56

London Borough of Bexley

compo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:42:36

not heard of selective testing, what's that?

solo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:47:37

Same as 11+ from what I know. My Ds has just done both this past week for two different areas.

compo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:48:17

so if he passes he goes to the 'good' school and if he fails goes to the local comp?

solo Sun 21-Sep-08 12:50:11

ie, one area called it 11+, the other selective testing. So it would be selecting the children for grammar education through testing.
I remember it being called the 11+ when I was at school...long ago!

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