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suzun Tue 24-Jun-08 14:32:41

I know there are lots of threads on this subject already but just wondered if anyone elses children have been ruined by the steiner education.

My dd has been bullied for the last 4yrs and have only just realised from threads on here about the Anthroposothy side. Yes i know after 4yrs.

DD was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome but now we have been told by the clinical psych that he believes she was wrongly diagnosed in the beginning and it was a result of constant bullying that was not dealt with.
She was bullied on a daily basis and there are also child protection issues which i wont go into.

She is now home educated and is almost a different child although will take some time to recover.

I really am furious and hoping to get a report from the psych to send to the school and also the HMIE are due to inspect soon and i want them to also have a copy.

There are so many thing that the school should be answerable to but you never get a straight answer.

My son is 8 and has had 5 teachers in the space of a year.I really want out of the school but my boys want to stay.
I'm sure it is because they know nothing else.

We are ostricised by my dds old teacher and really feel outside of the 'community'lol.

Both my boys will be so behind accademically that they will really struggle in a mainstream school and also they are not used to full days either.

A friend of mine was given 8,000 pounds by a uk steiner school to keep quiet about the bullying of his child by a steiner teacher.

There was a recent class trip and on the last night the boys and girls were allowed to stay in the same tent. These were 13/14 and 15yr olds :0

There are so many shocking things that i want to blurt out but have to be careful.

I find the teachers well most of them very odd and it seems to be the norm to swap partners there too.I'm not joking either .

We have just recieved a letter asking for a full years fees upfront by end of July. Has anyone had this type of thing happen.



northernrefugee39 Tue 24-Jun-08 16:46:51

Hi Suzan, I totally sympathise with this situaion, and have seen similar ones at Steiner schools before.
I'm so glad your daughter is recovering now she's left.
Our three children were at Steiner school for two/three years. There was horrendous bullying, some to our children and alot to others. It was physical and emotional. The teachers ignored it, as anthrposophically it's a past life situation which needs to be played out.
To deal with difficult behaviour in the classroom the children told us that two large male teachers were often brought in to physically drag the children out; one boy allegedly was dragged accross the room by his neck
Steiner schools seem to get away with things which in a normal situation would be called assault.
Health and safety was a big issue too; they don't worry too much, because guardian angels are watching the children; if an accident happens, it's karma.hmm

The school asking you for money does not surprise me one bit- they are disorganised wit paperwork on almost every issue, swet, bumbling and spiritual; but when it comes to asking for money, they turn into aggressive machines! I'm not sure wher you stand legally, (you may have signed something which promised to pay at sme point) but i would certainly look into this; particularly since your daughter suffered at their hands.

I've just finished writing an article of sorts about our experience, which I'm sending to a couple of journalists who were interested, and some websites.
It's focus is on the secrecy and deception about recruiting parents to seiner schools and not being up front about anthroposohy,the racial beliefs it's hinged on, and the appalling teaching and bullying.
Sound familiar?

northernrefugee39 Tue 24-Jun-08 16:50:41

The swapping parteners, there was alot of that in the place where we were. What's that about I wonder? Steiner was quite quiet about sex.
I reckon it's boredom, and selfishness; these people are some o the most self interested, least interested in anyone, anything, but their own spiritual path.... and gratification too. ..... they're very unemotional peole too i found, no laughter, tears or joy....very contained and "held".. Eugh! Like having sex with a plank I should think....

barking Tue 24-Jun-08 17:27:07

Hi Suzan and Northern smile

The hardest part is making the decision, they will lead you to believe the modern outside world is not to be trusted, only feared. I so wanted it to work at the time (before I had access to the internet).

Its all about control. I feel so angry on your behalf, I would ask for your £8000 silence money and run as far away from the buggers as possible.

The central theme of anthoposophy underpins everything, steiner's idea of karma and reincarnation is incredibly disempowering to both child and parent, I believe you can take responsibility and make your own fate. Nature is free, you don't have to subscribe to a cult community to be part of it.

We left, but we are still living in a steiner community, can you imagine the passive aggressive hell we're in, they can't even feel sorry for us for being ignorant, we are their worst nightmare as we know what lurks behind the smiles, silk scarves and rounded corners. We hope to leave soon, but until then I must be good and quiet and work out my karma on mumsnet wink

I have a couple of friends who work high up in mental health and these schools are famous, having a high concentration of fragile adults who weren't parented very well themselves and very angry and vunerable children.

Ah yes partner swapping,,,it must be that they are terrified of being intimate with anyone outside of the community. At least they don't have to go through all the agro of persuading the other half to adopt their new alternative lifestyle....all common in a cult environment.

northernrefugee39 Tue 24-Jun-08 19:33:08


suzun, this discussion was stopped and i was banned ooh wonder who threatened them with legal action?
but it might interest you- the things mamauk says, mirroring our experiences...
The Green Parent BANNED discussion

And it was such a good discussion, brought in more interest in those threads than they'd had ever virtually...

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suzun Wed 25-Jun-08 11:26:17

Thank you for you messages of support.
From what i have read and heard from lots of others about steiner education is horrendous to say the least.

I wish i had never stepped foot inside the school but truly believe Anthroposophy is hidden from the parents.

When people go to look at these schools all they see is sweet smiling teachers but there is a lot hidden behind those sweet smiles.

Northernrefugee i can relate to what you have been through with your children because i read your story on another thread.

I hope your childern are ok and recovering.

This person that STALKS you obviously dosen't like the truth but all what you have said i can totally understand.

You are telling the truth and these school can be very damaging to children.

It has taken us a lot of time to see behind those smiles but when we take my two boys out of the school we will tell our story.

My husband is a journalist and if we can help you in any way then we will.

People need to know what these schools are about and how the anthros are damaging our children.

I say spread the word and let people know.

Bws to you all on here

s xx

northernrefugee39 Wed 25-Jun-08 12:04:30

Hi again Suzun. This thread here confirms for me all I had suspected about hiding anthroposophy from parents read karatecat and Lyehemian's posts particularly they both trained as Steiner teachers.

There was thread herewhere a teacher came on , and it was all very civilised; she actually says something along the lines of that the "problem" of "educating" parents was a big one for Steiner teachers, which says alot for me too- parents aren't going to be kept in the picture about why they are teaching our kids in a particular way, they need to be "educated ". The poster just couldn't see what might rile about this statement. They are right, their way is right, and that's that. Completely brainwashed and complacent.

I'll send you our story; I have a friend ( sister of a good friend) at The Guardian too. And two other journalists who were interested in the story.
I agree with you about it being in the open, particularly since the steiner school, in hereford is to become state funded. The anthroposophy has to be open.

suzun Wed 25-Jun-08 12:46:49

I went to a talk on parenting at the school recently and what a load of old tosh. I really couldn't believe i had sent my children to the school.

Our children were all fairies and gnomes in their previous life and that is why they can relate to fairytales told by teachers because they are remembering their past.

A child with SN hasn't been incarnated properly and her journey was never complete etc etc.

A people with Aspergers syndrome only understand 6% of whats said anyway.

Of course their way is right after all the teacher is more important than the parent.

The child actually chose his /her teacher long before it was born lol.

They are totally bonkers.

I'm just off to read the other links.

I did ask a parent about anthroposothy 2 weeks ago and she said with a smile 'are you happy about this for your child its good'

My reply was no i'm not happy because i never knew about it and i'm sure if a lot of parents knew it would put them off.

Her reply was
Well it would attract the right kind of people.About 85% of people shouldn't be at this school because they dont understand waldorf education.

Well this woman and her friends have since avoided me and don't want to ingage in conversation but i just don't care anymore.

Lets campaign and get the proper story out in the open

s xx

northernrefugee39 Wed 25-Jun-08 20:24:23

Oh crikey, those parenting talks... everyone laps it up in reverence... the sn thing really gets me, steiner believed people with learning difficulties were demons in hman form.I remeber one camphill mother telling me "We don't believe these people are as they are for the same reasons as you"

I think addh is a condition brought on by forces of death or something, and dyslexia and lefthansedness are incarnation problems, weak karmic forces, and have to be corrected. ARRGH! It makes me {angry]

Well good, if that parent wants to attract anthro nuts, fine, but don't deceive others in the hope of catching their children and reincarnating them. * IT IS DECEIPTFUL* and amoral.

Yes, lets get the story out for sure.....
If there's legal action being threatened, that's almost a story in itself I would have thought.

JULIEABBO Thu 26-Jun-08 14:42:17

Am really interested in knowing more about this - would love to read more of your story northern refugee

northernrefugee39 Thu 26-Jun-08 15:04:57


I'm about to send the aritcle to some journalists and websites. Since Sune Nordwell has put some comments about mumsnet and myself -Northern - on his website,I feel I need to add something to the article.

I'll link to it on mumsnet at some point soon.

The gist of it is that we were deceived when we first showed an interest in Steiner education; the school's prospectus, none of the administrators or staff mentioned the occult science, spiritual reincarnation aspect of the education. (I had limited access to the internet at tht time,or it might have been easier; it was about 4 yrs ago.)
In actual fact they positively dismissed any concerns we had about this aspect as time went on; belittled it, and laughed it away, or ignored it.
Finally we twigged, that all the decisions about the kids were based on anthroposophy.

There was appalling bullying, ignored, teachers physically manhandling children. terrible teaching, etc etc.

The final incident was when one of our daughters was singled out in quite a pointed way. I since wondered if this had anything to do with the fact that my dh is Asian/Jewish, and our kids slightly darker appearance, which was commented on several times at the school , had anything to do with it. It might not have, but steiner's theory on race is the backdrop to anthroposophy upon which the schools are based, although they don't teach it, which is how they get out of any questions about it.

The links to the TES forum, where Steiner teachers actually say they're taught not to tell parents, really confirms much of what went on with us. They are very shifty, evasive,clever, weird.....

northernrefugee39 Thu 26-Jun-08 15:07:03

JULIE, do you have any connection with steiner schools camphill? [nosey emotive]

JULIEABBO Thu 26-Jun-08 16:33:25

No I don't. I work in the media and that's where my interest lies (also I have a toddler) so have big interest in education on both personal and work level. Would be great to see the article.

northernrefugee39 Thu 26-Jun-08 16:58:22

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northernrefugee39 Thu 26-Jun-08 17:00:04

JULIEABBO, when the article's up, I'll post a message on mumsnet about it...

suzun Thu 26-Jun-08 17:44:54

Northern that happened to a child in our school he was left handed but encouraged to write with his right hand too.Dreadful.

Well i am about to post placing request forms for both my sons at a mainstream school.

I am not wasting anymore money on Steiner education. They break up next week and we will be free from the lot of them.


So glad of this message board thanks.

northernrefugee39 Thu 26-Jun-08 19:52:08

After the time you've had , you deserve a good summer suzunsmile
Did they say why they were trying to make him use his right hand? my dd was 5, and really felt she had to try and do it to please the teacher, she felt she was doing something wrong. #
It was brought up at parents evening once... one mother was furious about it. The teacher got very flustered, and wouldn't say why they thought it was best. Of course now I realise, having read this
With left-handed children it is necessary that you attempt to do as much as possible to change them into right-handed children...
.. what we really want is that such
left-handed children become right-handed
ones" Rudolf Steiner
"The phenomenon of left-handedness is clearly
karmic, and, in connection with karma, it is
one of karmic weakness.....If you give in to that too much, then that weakness may perhaps remain for a later, a third earthly life. If you do not give in, then the weakness is brought into balance." Rudolf Steiner

northernrefugee39 Thu 26-Jun-08 20:53:07

"I too am concerned that it is all based on one blokes ideas a hundred years ago as some of them seem very wacky. I just wish this sort of schooling was available without the wackyness or religious side to it." From a thread on mumsnet in 2005

I've just been loking back at the old discussions on Steiner, and there were people then saying the anthroposohy was hidden, they were lied to, it's a cult....same old story.
Time to break it.

"the particular school I looked at was sticking too rigidly to Rudolph Steiner's original philosophy and hadn't adapted anything to modern life. For example, not only did the school not use computers, the children were not allowed to talk about anything computer-related in the playground which seemed a bit draconian to me."

"these other mothers I mentioned in my last post.... well, one picks upher children from school in a horse drawn cart and the other told me off for using a pushchair as "no other being in the animal kingdom carries it's offsping in an artifact"

barking Thu 26-Jun-08 21:08:09

I remember those Northern, was the last from Chandra?
We should try and find her and ask for more stories

northernrefugee39 Fri 27-Jun-08 11:26:58

Hi barking...I bet she's got some good ones about gnomes and sprites.
Or who she was in her past life.
Some fab fashion ideas
Or some wholesome recipes

northernrefugee39 Thu 03-Jul-08 16:57:43

JULIEABBO, if you're still interested in our family's story, I've finished the article. Am about to send it to some contacts in the press.

Let me know here, I don't have cat yet actually, and I can give you my work email.

suzun Fri 04-Jul-08 10:27:42

Hi Northern

I would love to read your story and hubby has said he will gladly help too if you are still interested.

Well our last day of the steiner school was on wednesday and wow what a relief already

Although another boy tried to strangle my 8yr old on the day and upset him so much that he dosen't ever want to go to another school.

He said the kids were so horrible to him there and the teachers didn't help (well thats no suprise really).

northernrefugee39 Fri 04-Jul-08 12:11:24

Hi Suzun, glad your kids are out of it all. I think you'll be surprised at how quickly they settle into the rythm and order of primary school.
Ours were so happy; the disarray and boredom at Steiner school is such a contrast to primary.
I'll pm you at netmums then ok?- look in your messages.
I thought I had your email, but can't find it.
I don't think I'm too happy about giving out even work one at the moment, because
I think the anthro stalker can still see this board.

suzun Fri 04-Jul-08 16:23:27

Hi Northern
Sorry to sound thick lol but how do i get messages on here because i can't seem to find a way of recieving them

barking Fri 04-Jul-08 16:28:18

Suzan, I think you can log in via my mumsnet then look at your email options to yay or nay cat (contact another talker)

plumandolive Fri 04-Jul-08 16:32:46

Oh hi suzun, I actually sent you a message at netmums with my email, I don't have it on here yet.
I keep thinking I'll do cat, and then think, oh they're going to ban me soon, what's the point? Hee Hee

Hi barkingsmile

plumandolive Fri 04-Jul-08 16:34:27

Yikes- that's my other user name- it's me northern who is also plum... as people get cross with Steiner threads I use this name too....

barking Fri 04-Jul-08 16:39:30

Love the name Northern, sounds like an exclusive boutique
you're too posh for me grin

plumandolive Fri 04-Jul-08 17:00:55

It's the name of our two black guineapigs.... posh shop my foot grin

It's amazing how much nicer people are to plumandolive than northern actually.
But maybe I become sweeter with my new persona.

I think I posted on the Steiner threads as plum once too when things were slow....nothing bad, promise...

There's a shop near us in fact, called Plum. it sells trinkets and such it does.. qute nuice, a place my 13 yr old goes for friends presents....

guyane Sat 05-Jul-08 19:42:56

Oh this is so sad. You have experienced the worst of Steiner education and teachers - we have been through a similar place in Scotland (partner swapping, overt anthroposophical tendencies and generally unreal people...). A good Steiner school brings education first, nothing more, and really does allow the children to develop fully all their multiple intelligences. The school you have experienced brings others into disrepute and should, I have always said since my own experiences there (say no more...), be fully investigated and closed. Our own children are returning to Steiner education in a properly run school teaching the children the full Waldord curriculum with state and waldorf-trained teachers .. but the fees to match ... but the pupil successes too. Good luck to you all (and to us, I hope we're doing the right thing for our kids...).

northernrefugee39 Sat 05-Jul-08 20:45:39

hi guyane, thanks for your sympathetic post. There are actually more than the three families who have posted on this thread with stories like this; many people have come on over the past months relating quite similar and sad tales of the problems with Steiner schools.
Many of them have been banned too, set in motion by antthroposophists determined not to allow public discussion of negative stories about Steiner .
Like you, I have always believed that there are some good things within the curriculum, but while it is lead by anthroposophy, the schools are harnessed by a retrogressive and rigid pseudo religious belief system.
Interesting you mention "overt anthroposophical tendencies" as a criticism of your previous school, because "covert" anthroposophy is the real danger in my eyes. The fact they go to such enormous lengths to hide it is the biggest warning sign that they behave in a cult like way.
I truly hope your new school is the one for your kids and they come through it well.
I always believed that if these schools existed without the anthroposophy they could be wonderful.

guyane Sat 05-Jul-08 21:16:51

Thanks, , we'll see; eyes open at all costs... Perhaps the next stage in the 'evolution' of Steiner education is to transform the pseudo religious belief system (I totally agree with that analysis) into a genuine philosophy (i.e. without the 'belief' criterion)... but I go cautiously on that one for now. I wonder what would happen if I mentioned Richard Dawkins wink?

AJMG Fri 07-Jun-13 18:57:53

dear all - have not been on this website for some time but now find ourselves in the midst of a Steiner bullying situation in Scotland. See there has been a thread before and wondered if any of those involved are still here?

kaumana Sun 09-Jun-13 12:00:38

Have a look at the Local Edinburgh thread and you'll see that it is still a problem.

JaneGI Tue 06-May-14 19:25:40

Hope you don`t mind me writing on here but i have been thinking of this for that last few days. I was a child at a Steiner School in the 1970`s, bullying there was rife by Staff and Pupils alike, no one ever listened, no one ever stopped it, don`t know if i can go into it all because it is quite painful, but there was a girl in my class who was slightly different to everyone else because she had a medical condition that meant she was over weight. One particular PE lesson, i don`t exactly know what happened because i wasn`t there that day, some other girls in the class went into the changing rooms, stripped her and put stinging nettles on her buttocks, nothing was done about it because the idea was it was her own fault. I was a boarder there for some time and on regular occasions i had a boy come into my room at night who told me i would be dead in the morning. I also witnessed a teacher hit a child on the back of the neck so hard the child vomited. And witnessed another teacher drag a small girl by her hair along a path very hard because she didn`t want to go outside. I know this is an old thread but i just needed to tell some one. Thanks for reading.

MinimalistMommi Sat 10-May-14 17:10:03

Just look at this: shock

Willow22 Sun 24-Aug-14 11:45:06

I've not read this thread before but just came across it. I noticed it was old and wasn't going to comment until I saw your message JaneGI. I'm so sorry to hear how bad it was for you and your fellow pupils in the 70s.

I hate to admit it now but we sent all three of our children to a Steiner school and we so regret the decision. My daughter was bullied both by the children and one of the teachers. My husband once arrived to collect her and found her soaking wet and covered in mud after being tipped into the local stream from a wheelbarrow. When he spoke to a teacher he was told she asked for it. We don't know how it happened but even if she had volunteered to ride the wheelbarrow why didn't they clean her up and comfort her? She was bullied incessantly as were other children in her class and nothing was ever done. when she eventually became afraid to attend school we were asked to remove her because she was disrupting the class by not taking part in lessons!

My two boys did not experience this sort of thing but the level of education was really bad. The eldest left with two GCSEs, a C in Maths and a F in English and found college impossible to cope with yet he has an IQ in the gifted range. My younger son was asked to leave when we got into arreas with the fees after a lot of family problems incuding still having to cope with our daughter's ongoing mental health problems partly caused by her experiences at the school.

This is the school that is now a state funded academy and has received an £8,000,000 grant after the local education authority refused to help our children with their dyslexia due to a shortage of funding!

Stopsteiner Tue 26-Aug-14 22:11:16

Please come to this blog and help stop other parents from falling into the trap of Steiner education.

reluctantcyisthebestpolicy Mon 29-Dec-14 11:33:53

hi guys. its always sad to hear of bad experiences sad Id beware of these stop steiner people too... read a lot of their stuff its pretty worrying. theyre pretty obvs biased because they hate the idea behind it not the practice. a lot of the schools get pretty good inspections and I know ppl that came through and did well in life, at least one dr. I know ppl that did much worse in my locaql state school with bullying and intimidation. be careful what yr reading guys smile

Stopsteiner Mon 29-Dec-14 13:56:37

reluctancyisthebestpolicy says "beware of these stop steiner people" and that our stuff is "pretty worrying".
Stopsteiner is designed to provide information so that parents can make an informed choice when they look at Steiner education. comments from other critics and links to other sites mean that parents can make up their own minds. There are comments from Steiner supporters too.
The original poster Suzun was embarrassed to admit she did know about anthroposophy or that it is the reason for the problems in Steiner schools, even after four years! This is not her fault; the schools obfuscate when asked about anthroposophy, and most parents until now did not even know it existed.
Some parents may not object to this bizarre belief system being used on their children, but at least they should know about it before they sign up.
If reluctancyisthebestpolicy "knows people" he may have a connection with Steiner. Yes, be careful what you are reading, as he says, and do as much of your own research as possible.

escaped Mon 29-Dec-14 21:44:55

"watch out" for people that post on stop steiner in Stroud. I do hope you are not suggesting we are making it up? If anyone wants a full rounded view of honest actual accounts of steiner education please read the stop steiner in Stroud blog. We post our real life, true, honest facts on this site.

escaped Mon 29-Dec-14 21:58:47

I cant tell you how insulting you insinuations are!
Biased because we hate the idea?! We are biased because we have experienced abuse and have evidence. You should be ashamed of yourself for lack of compassion and understanding of the true facts and suffering we went through at the hands of steiner education. Do not presume to know or advise people to be wary of such a blog! Shame on you, you ignorant person.

Mummycaring Fri 06-Feb-15 16:20:16

Some Steiner School child protection practices are dreadful. They will have to change or more children will be abused. No sign they are getting the message.

Mummycaring Fri 02-Oct-15 21:28:45

I could not possibly recommend Steiner School's to anyone at present. The child safeguarding is seriously and dangerously deficient in my experience. I have evidence of this in writing also.

barkinglordwhatwhat Fri 13-May-16 20:17:30

As a former pupil, I can honestly say that Waldorf/Steiner education, together with the awful teachers and the constant bullying and abuse ruined many peoples lives. Both children and parents who raised concerns
Forget the smooth propaganda on YouTube etc, it is not worth the gamble sending your child to a Steiner school. The risks are huge
The same issues that crop up in the UK waldorf schools are present in other parts of the world as well. I would never send one of my children to a Steiner School but would rather let them read books at home.
Sadly my experiences are not unique. I went to 2 different Steiner schools and have subsequently met ex pupils who were also badly bullied and/or sexually abused by staff. I have met people who attempted suicide as adults due to their experiences in Steiner Schools. There are also people who enjoyed themselves and have done well but I suspect they would have done well wherever they went.
At my second Steiner school a pupil was given permanent brain damage and left as a vegetable when another jumped on his head repeatedly. Other pupils were victimised with homophobic bullying, racist bullying, and bullying based on disability. For example, a very vulnerable girl with MS was called spastic and imitated mercilessly and bullied by all the girls, most of the boys and some of the teachers. They obviously did nothing to stop the bullying. What tended to happen was that even kids who were not the ringleaders all joined in to avoid being victims themselves. Teachers also did this as they sought popularity with the bullies who were invariably the most popular, the fastest runners, best at sports etc.
Other pupils were bullied due to minor disabilities or unusual appearance.
So what new...bullying happens in most schools. Well here is the problem:
Anthropology views bullying as both Karma and that the soul of the disabled person is impure. As as result nothing is done to stop the bullying despite.
With a heavy emphasis on Greek, Roman and Norse history and myths/legends, a subliminal message is taught that only being white and of an athletic and attractive physic is the goal. Anyone not fitting this is an outcast.
Class Teachers who take the morning 1.40hr lesson each morning remain the same for classes 1-8. So if they bully or are otherwise bad teachers your DC will be lumbered with them for 8 years potentially
Bright students have no place in Steiner School, since reading, maths and science are held back, neglected or dismissed as unimportant according to some staff. Furthermore since many teachers for upper school, GCSE and A level stages are not properly qualified to teach their subject, bright students have no one to bring them on.
Steiner Teachers in my school were often unqualified for the subject they taught. Due to shortage of teachers (low wages) and the fact that teachers didn't have to have a PGCE, only the Steiner teachers course. Some Steiner teachers would never be up to teaching in a state school. Many are overgrown hippies and tend to be egoists in my experience. There are a few really nice teachers, but most are a nasty, ragtag bunch of loony lefties with no moral standards (dont be fooled by the nice trees and pretty picture you will be shown on open day)
Anyone under the impression that morality or being nice to each other is taught or encouraged in Steiner schools has been misled. On the one hand there is the quasi Christian and mystical side in the books, yet most of the the staff and the enthusiastic anthroposophists are left wing and liberal in moral outlook and this permeates the world-view children are provided.
Also quite a number of kids in Steiner Schools have been excluded from mainstream schools or have been troublemakers, but since their parents can pay, they are welcomed since they can pay full fees and Steiner education is not cheap. Money talks so the bad eggs find a home, but the good kids suffer academically and psychologically because of these imported, often disruptive, bullying kids.
Bullying is far worse in Steiner Schools for various reasons.
Lack of supervision in break times. Teachers were often smoking behind an outbuilding instead. Lack of an authority figure to whom teachers are accountable if they do nothing (ie no head) There is also the issue of Karma in that teachers believe it is the child's necessary path to be bullied or even the child's fault for actions in a previous life. Lack of accountability to Parent Governors. In Steiner Schools, the teachers together with a few prominent supporters/anthroposophists (college of teachers) are in charge of decisions and staff issues.
Basically the way Steiner schools are set up provides the ideal setting for incompetent, immoral, abusive and irresponsible teachers to succeed and be protected. In the 1980's 90's a paedophile was allowed to remain working at a West Midlands Steiner school for years and rather than being held accountable was demoted from teacher to caretaker. Many students were targeted at school and in their own homes since he befriended parents and co-teachers

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Mov1ngOn Sun 15-May-16 15:25:06

That's scary. Iwas almost tempted by the one near me.

nanettawoman Thu 29-Jun-17 13:54:04

Bullying and safegurding issues at Rudolf Steiner school Kings Langley. Children are victims. See report:

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