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Anteater Mon 25-Jun-07 21:31:26

Is your childs position in the exam results given?

If so do you find the information helpful or otherwise?

christywhisty Mon 25-Jun-07 22:03:05

No
We only get told if they underperforming, level for age or higher achieving, also whether they are putting in the right amount of effort.
We don't get told exam results, altough in some ways they are meaningless if you don't have anything to compare them against. So, yes, knowing your child's position in exam results would help you read the exam results correctly.

Berries Mon 25-Jun-07 22:15:33

DD1 (state primary) recentlly switched to A/B/C, overperforming/average/below average, plus an effort mark. Prior to this was a list of 'outcomes' or expected for age which was pretty meaningless tbh. This one is much better as shows where they have talents and also where they are dipping.

DD2 (ind primary) has class average in tests (maths/eng/science) as percentage, and childs percentage, so you can see how they compare with peers without needing to know what their 'rank' is iyswim.

The info is helpful because these are all children that the dds will be compared with at GCSE/A level/ for university places etc so helps to know where that stand. Also may show previously unrealised talents.

Actually suspect that the percentage figure is the most useful, for those who are struggling as well, as it quantifies the problem. ie in DD1 school, child may be shown as 'C' in maths (below avg) but in dd2 school child may be shown as 3% below the avg mark, thus showing that maybe a bit more extra help at home will sort out the problem.

Anteater Wed 27-Jun-07 10:12:29

I suspect that the information is of help to the average or strong performers, but of little use if the child has slight dyslexia etc.
grrrrr

hydrophobia Wed 27-Jun-07 10:39:41

better than our time - can do this, likes that needs to try harder all too vague

christywhisty Wed 27-Jun-07 16:03:58

Anteater
My son has a SLD and has been described as having dyslexic traits, I don't see why that information isn't less applicable for him than anyone else.

roisin Wed 27-Jun-07 16:58:10

No, not given
A figure for the national average, or the expected standard might be helpful. But a position in a particular class would be of no interest.

LIZS Wed 27-Jun-07 17:03:09

We get his % against the median % ie the result of the middle child in his class/group. You wouldn't know if they are actually top or bottom, just if in top or bottom half of the group.

Anteater Wed 27-Jun-07 23:25:18

We get dd's %, the class average % and then the clas position.
Just feel for her. She is a shy girl with a High IQ and mild dyslexia. Her confidence is crushed each week after spelling test results are read out and then at the end of each term when the exam positions are presented..

Grrr.

cat64 Thu 28-Jun-07 00:10:48

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Anteater Thu 28-Jun-07 00:51:53

So am I right in assuming that position in class is not a normal piece of information that is supplied?

CristinaTheAstonishing Thu 28-Jun-07 07:03:01

We were told DS's results at his recent SATs (year 2). This was during an annual review meeting as he has a Statement, I don't know if this makes a difference. (He got level 3 in maths and reading and 2A in writing - thought I'd never have the opportunity to boast!).

LIZS Thu 28-Jun-07 09:04:00

The only time we have knwon where ds "sits" is form of a graphical presentation of his PIPs results which had a dot for every child in the class with initials . However that was shown so fleetingly that you only really had time to take in your own child's rough position and may be the odd other on the way top finding it ! None of this is revealed publicly or to the children though.

Sherbert37 Thu 28-Jun-07 09:12:18

No we do not know position in class (and I wouldn't want to know it). Have just had DS2's books home. He is 10 and has been diagnosed with severe dyslexia this year. I did not realise the spellings were marked by peers, so he had been getting 3 out of 20 and his friends had been putting ticks and crosses. This must have been so upsetting for him and I will watch out for it next term.

cat64 Thu 28-Jun-07 13:23:58

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ProfessorGrammaticus Thu 28-Jun-07 13:33:05

What are PIPS? Our school has introduced these but not told the parents anything about them (not unusual - sigh!)

LIZS Thu 28-Jun-07 13:48:20

PIPS info

Gobbledigook Thu 28-Jun-07 13:53:04

We don't get class position either. They might give it you if pushed (I was told ds1 had done 'really well' in a recent maths assessment and I asked specifically what she meant by that and she gave me the % and 'in the top x in the year')

Apparently ours have done PIPS assessments too (yr 1) recently and we get the results of this in their next report - I only heard this from another parent, I don't even know what PIPS is so will look at that link now!

Feel for your dd Anteater - it's clearly of no benefit to her to give class positions. As others have said, some idea of where they sit vs national average would be more meaningful I guess.

Quattrocento Thu 28-Jun-07 13:55:59

No - for instance for maths, my DS (year 2) got

bottom result - 12%
his result - x%
top result - 95%

I would like to know the median result as well. The deciles might be quite useful too but the class size is small and it would be too easy to identify who was where.

Also got some totally garbage statistic about his reading age that made me lose all faith in his report.

Quattrocento Thu 28-Jun-07 14:06:21

Sorry, meant to add that there is an effort mark ranging from 1 (best) through to 5

With that there is an achievement grade, also ranging from 1 (best) through to 5

As well as test results. And bonkers statistic on reading age.

Anteater Thu 28-Jun-07 14:49:39

Yes we to get an effort mark, dd1 always gets 1s and is getting very pxxsed with the school as her published results are always around the bottom

Her IQ is around 130 but the school seems indifferent to her combination of 'talents'!

Have to say that we are looking round.

No in school support has been offered, just a lifetime of low class positions[sad dad]

Quattrocento Thu 28-Jun-07 14:54:33

Did you get her reading age? I started a thread on this because the way they do it must be MUST be totally unscientific

Anteater Thu 28-Jun-07 15:08:43

Yes, about 14 months behind 6 months ago, now about right for age but behind on IQ.
Used Toe by Toe etc.

Quattrocento Thu 28-Jun-07 15:13:15

Anteater, is your child is at one of those selective schools that are hyper-competitive?

Because I really don't understand how she can have high IQ and relative low performance otherwise? Unless dyslexia? Tho you said only slight?

Quattrocento Thu 28-Jun-07 15:19:44

One of the bees currently buzzing around in my bonnet is that those sorts of schools - can be pretty demotivating for bright children because they hardly ever get the chance to do well.

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