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Foundation FSP - how does the scoring system work??

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 09:33

..because ds's school neglected to tell us, nor have we had a parent's evening on this (as i ranted about in another thread)..Anyway, finally got the report and would like to know what the scores mean. TIA!

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figleaf · 20/07/2006 09:41

We have not been given ours - with or without explanation. Just a half page of blurb.

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 09:45

oh, makes you wonder what it's for, doesn't it? was the blurb helpful then?

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Mercy · 20/07/2006 09:45

No profile scores here either - 2 pages of 'blurb' though!

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 09:56

so does anyone know what it all means? any teachers out there?

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gladbag · 20/07/2006 10:01

Each area is scored out of 9 - they don't have to be 'ticked' in order, iyswim, until the 9th, which can only be gained if all the earlier 8 have as well.

If I remember correctly, an 'average score' is 6 or 7, with 9 being the equivalent to Y1 assessments. I also think that there have been complaints about the reading/writing ones as they seem to be set higher than the other areas, so fewer children are scoring so well.

Does that make sense?

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 10:05

thanks, sort of...
still a little mysterious though - cd you explain about "they don't have to be 'ticked' in order, iyswim, until the 9th, which can only be gained if all the earlier 8 have as well" as i'm new to all this.
also, i know they''re all different - ds did well enough on the 2nd & 3rd categories but got a couple of 3s & 4s in the 1st personal characterisitcs section (or whatever it's called). any ideas what this signifies? does it mean he's just a little immature or is it something to worry about?

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gladbag · 20/07/2006 10:36

It's really difficult to explain in detail, as it's such (IMO) a ridiculously wordy and complicated document. The scores are fairly meaningless by themselves - they are just another way for the government to track 'progress' through schools (although I think that's back-fired with the FS profile because so many of the judgements are open to interpretation, and vary wildly from school to school). You should really have been offered a meeting with his teacher to discuss it. That's the whole point of the lay-out of the profiles - they were designed to be discussed face-to-face with parents, not just sent home. I would imagine, from what you say, that there are areas within the 'Personal,social and emotional' bit that the teacher feels your ds is still working on (it could be concentration, motivation, working with others, independence....a whole range of stuff), and I'm sure it's nothing to be concerned about, but I would try to speak to his teacher anyway, just for your own interest.

I found this, pasted from The Standards site...which may, or may not, be useful (it's in teacher-speak, so full of silly jargon).

Question: What is a good level of attainment at the end of the Foundation Stage?

All six areas of the Foundation Stage are equally important and all are interdependent. For instance, a child cannot learn to read (Communication, language and literacy scale 6) without the appropriate attitudes and dispositions (Personal, social and emotional development scale 1) and will also need to link sounds and letters (Communication, language and literacy scale 5). Learning to write (Communication, language and literacy scale 7) is dependent on developing fine motor skills (Personal, social and emotional development scale 12) and is also closely linked to attitudes and dispositions (Personal, social and emotional development scale 1), linking sounds and letters (Communication, language and literacy scale 5) and learning to read (Communication, language and literacy scale 6). Consideration will need to be given to the stepping stones that lead towards particular early learning goals, not just in one area of learning but across all of them if this is considered relevant by the practitioner.

Each scale of the Foundation Stage Profile consists of nine statements or items.

  • The first three reflect the stepping stones described within the context of the final year of the Foundation Stage.
  • Items 4 to 8 are the early learning goals which most children are expected to achieve by the end of the Foundation Stage. Points 4 to 8 of the Foundation Stage Profile across all scales have equal value and can be achieved in any order. These five scale points (4-8) are the early learning goals, reordered and occasionally edited for the purposes of assessment.
  • Item 9 describes achievement significantly beyond what is expected during the Foundation Stage. It has the level of challenge found in aspects of level 1 and sometimes aspects of level 2b of the National Curriculum.

    Items 1-3 (based on the stepping stones) are likely to be achieved first, 4-8 can be achieved in any order. Item 9 can only be achieved once all other 8 items have been achieved.

    The early learning goals (points 4 to 8 across all 13 scales) cover a wide spectrum, reflecting children's development at the end of the Foundation Stage. A score of 5 would not necessarily mean that a child had achieved points 1 to 5 on one of the scales. The child might have achieved 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7 (total equals 5) and still be working towards the other early learning goals.
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MissChief · 20/07/2006 10:46

thanks, gb - that's helpful, though rather blinded by the jargon!
I can't believe it was just sent home with no explanation and am at sch/teacher - don't know who's at fault for their unwillingness to discuss. Good to hear that this isn't widespread, tho just a shame that ds1's shc is like this, thank god we're moving!

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Gobbledigook · 20/07/2006 10:52

look here

If you scroll down the page to where it has underlined 'the full handbook' - under that are the six categories you probably have scores for. Click on each category and it tells you what they have to do to score 1-9.

On ds1's report it didn't give scores but the phrases were 'lifted' from this booklet so it was easy to work out

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Gobbledigook · 20/07/2006 10:54

Tbh, some of them have me pmsl - they are soooo ridiculously over analytical, reading far too much into every little action a child displays.

Don't get too stressed about it!

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 10:59

thanks, but good god, it's not exactly accessible,is it? i like to think i'm relatively educated and am the daugther of a retired teacher, but can hardly make head nor tail of it!
quite ridiculous detail/ jargon

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 11:00

yep, it's all gobbledigook

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Gobbledigook · 20/07/2006 11:09

Did you go to the relevant sections and download the document for each category - that's a bit clearer!

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MissChief · 20/07/2006 11:10

um, must confess not yet bothered to - having to download new doc put me off! Shall do my hmk later though!

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