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My son and maths learning support.

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nothavingagreatday Sat 02-Nov-13 23:34:11

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julie1961 Sat 02-Nov-13 14:23:52

I would definitely discuss the issues that he is having with Maths. If you are paying for private tuition I would recommend attending somewhere the specialises in a more all round education and fills in any learning gaps. Don't know where you live, but Genie Tutors is excellent. I have used them. Have a look at their web address, even giving them a call and talking to a professional outside the situation may help answer some of your questions.

nothavingagreatday Sat 02-Nov-13 07:59:01

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LIZS Sat 02-Nov-13 07:39:11

Not normally unless he has a SEN they don't cater for ie severe dyslexia, or a condition like ASD. They could say no but doubt they would on the back of small group work.

nothavingagreatday Sat 02-Nov-13 05:04:13

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nothavingagreatday Fri 01-Nov-13 12:31:41

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noblegiraffe Fri 01-Nov-13 12:30:02

You might find this useful, it's the maths level descriptors for KS1-3

A child is expected to be at least level 4 by age 11, I think a 7 year old should be level 2.

LIZS Fri 01-Nov-13 12:28:48

That would start in KS1 /infants . You may find this useful but private schools tend to run a little ahead and are not tied to NC.

octopusinastringbag Fri 01-Nov-13 12:24:37

Yes, age 7 in my experience. Bit annoyed though as my DS was learning to tell the time and got a watch for a gift last Xmas (as requested) but they are not allowed to wear them at school.

nothavingagreatday Fri 01-Nov-13 12:18:41

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mary21 Fri 01-Nov-13 11:02:03

Just looked maths whizz do still have a free assessment

mary21 Fri 01-Nov-13 10:48:00

Hi in the UK kids learn all sorts of methods to add and subtract before they start borrowing and carrying etc which I believe Kumon don't do. Same with multiplication and division. Grids and Chu king. I can't remember it all. My kids are now secondary age . It certainly made them quite flexible at mental maths and a lot of it was what I find I naturally do in my head. Eg to subtract 29 take away 20 take away 9. You may well find he has missed big chunks of their curriculum . So although he is/way ahead of the rest of his class he has big gaps. Maths whizz goes through the UK curriculum but you might not want to pay for this as well as kumon. It used to be free to do their online assessment but I believe you now have to pay.

LIZS Fri 01-Nov-13 10:47:47

yes the word problems are typical of not being able to apply basic arithmetical principles, although that isn't necessarily unusual at his age. It is numerical reasoning. The rest is Reception/Year1 type stuff to do with understanding numbers so should be within his grasp. We had similar problems with IS schooling and ds took a while to catch up in UK.

nothavingagreatday Fri 01-Nov-13 10:38:14

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LIZS Fri 01-Nov-13 09:16:40

They may well use different terminology or methods for basics to what he knows. I'm not sure Kumon uses mental maths in same way. tbh most children in UK schools of this age would learn all their tables in this year. Much of IS curriculum in primary years is concept and investigation based ime rather than traditional arithmetic and yes he will not be in sych with UK.

Labro Fri 01-Nov-13 09:05:11

Ah.... time to speak to their equivilent of 'head of department' and find out if hes doing the stuff at his level outside of school so effectively switching off from the school stuff (not a problem but from personal experience had a teacher telling me ds couldn't do something rather than had disengaged through boredom)
How much longer is he at current school?

lljkk Fri 01-Nov-13 08:40:01

How much are you paying to send him to this international school?

nothavingagreatday Fri 01-Nov-13 08:18:28

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Labro Fri 01-Nov-13 08:04:28

Give her a call.

I sent an email last week about arranging a meeting (funnily enough about ds age 11 and his maths as teacher just brushes off problems with 'he needs to bring his book to lessons!) and the teacher decided I was being nasty!

Wasn't criticising Kumon x

Could be that other teachers have noticed the lack of maths going on in her classroom and want to give your ds an alternative?

nothavingagreatday Fri 01-Nov-13 07:18:16

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Labro Fri 01-Nov-13 07:06:35

I'd check what she means by learning support and needing number work as it could be bad phrasing for he needs extra work as hes ahead of the others, especially if hes being told to do drawing in a maths lesson.

Is he coping with the bond papers for his age?
If you can, I'd also get him to use the 'bbc bitesize' website Key Stage 2 area as it might give you a clearer idea what he can do independently. Youngsters from International schools who I met whilst working in a UK boarding school had done Kumon (they were age 7/8) seemed to lack the theory behind what they were doing as it seemed to be pages and pages of repetition rather than teaching. (Thats only my personal experience)

Definitely have a long conversation with the maths teacher though as to what she means and the aim of the learning support.

nothavingagreatday Fri 01-Nov-13 06:49:19

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