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Blissx Thu 24-Oct-13 21:01:35

Came across this article:

I am rendered speechless....

ipadquietly Thu 24-Oct-13 21:04:26

After the Annaliese fiasco.

Can you credit it?


ProphetOfDoom Thu 24-Oct-13 21:04:58

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Elibean Thu 24-Oct-13 21:32:45


Though why I am shocked....hmm

rabbitstew Thu 24-Oct-13 23:18:05

Unbelievable. And unforgiveable.

eddiemairswife Fri 25-Oct-13 00:03:39

Mr. Gove seems slightly unhinged where his pet project is concerned.

straggle Fri 25-Oct-13 09:50:51

He never ever answers questions on matters like these. He is always away from parliament and gets his underlings to answer, always stock phrases. He was away in America during the teachers's strike and Al-Madinah Ofsted car crash. He grandstands to a carefully selected thinktank audience and gets the Daily Mail to publish his meaningless drivel. He is the master of the Big Lie. He is morally bankrupt.

Talkinpeace Fri 25-Oct-13 14:06:38

Gove is just dangerous.

Please, please, please parents - do not send your kids to these Free Schools unless you are happy picking up the pieces when they implode.

pointyfangs Fri 25-Oct-13 17:51:22

I'm horrified, but unfortunately not surprised. This man really is the worst SoS for Education in history. My children will never, never, never, never go to a Free School.

rabbitstew Fri 25-Oct-13 17:55:50

I like the SOS. Definitely the signal we need to send to the powers that be. Not that they give a toss. grin

pointyfangs Fri 25-Oct-13 17:57:25

I just couldn't be bothered to type Secretary of State in full, but you hav a point - it's particularly apt.

creamteas Fri 25-Oct-13 20:26:06

It is totally crap, but suits his logic.

If you don't believe teaching as a profession clearly no one needs to be qualified.

An entire generation of kids lives are being ruined with his half-baked measures angry

ipadquietly Fri 25-Oct-13 20:57:23

And this.

More 'checks' failed.

nennypops Fri 25-Oct-13 22:01:40

It's one disaster after another with free schools, and Gove wants to cut down checks on them? Why on earth is he still in a job?

Bakingnovice Sat 26-Oct-13 07:54:42

Disgusting. But will there be any accountability? No. The free school head should be sacked. And all his family 'employees'.

MadeOfStarDust Sat 26-Oct-13 08:26:03

ermmmmm - funds were mismanaged at our local state primary school 4 years ago... the head was arrested, but nothing came of it .... happens everywhere - I don't get the hysteria...

(mine aren't going to free schools because I don't agree with the principles behind them)

straggle Sat 26-Oct-13 08:47:54

But there are 20,000 primary schools and in the one example you have given the head was arrested. There were 79 free schools open last year which have been given £60 million in 'start-up expenses' and it is just coming to light with at least two of them -God knows how many more - are mismanaging funds AND giving jobs and contracts to relatives. Yet they have no LA to monitor them and the DfE has cut checks on financial oversight. And it's no big deal?!?!?

rabbitstew Sat 26-Oct-13 09:09:50

Ooooh, what a surprise. Get yourself a school and employ friends and family for a nice little profit earner. And on a larger scale, get your business a chain of schools, backed by your mates in government for a nice little profit earner.

meditrina Sat 26-Oct-13 09:27:38

I don't think "attendance at an assessment centre" is the right measure. That's process-driven box-ticking.

What is needed is a proper assessment, based on what the person is actually bringing to the job. You could propose bringing in the greatest ever Scandinavian superhead (or, in a RL example, the former head of Westminster) and have that overturned because of lack of the right attendance.

This change doesn't represent the abandoning of all checks. Just refraining from the enshrining of one course above all others.

Bakingnovice Sat 26-Oct-13 09:42:33

What's particularly disturbing is the apparent cover up by the police and gove. These findings came to light in May (during an absolutely terrible ofsted report). Gove and the police covered it up. And I'm baffled as to how the police decided there was 'no case'?!!

rabbitstew Sat 26-Oct-13 09:58:04

Well, it smacks to me of getting rid of "process-driven box-ticking" and replacing it with, "What the hell, do what you think is right, what do we know about it, anyway? We'll just have Ofsted come in in a couple of years time, when they notice you haven't called them in and whistleblowers have started talking to the police."

BrigitBigKnickers Sat 26-Oct-13 10:00:38

Out of interest-has anyone noticed the OFSTED ratings for most of these schools? And more importantly read the actual reports...

I was just looking at a few and (with the exception of the Al-Madenha school) they all seem to come out with at least good? Strange as the stated strength and weaknesses for these schools are almost identical to the RI reports on many LA funded schools that I have looked at... (my school included.) hmm

rabbitstew Sat 26-Oct-13 10:05:46

Well, since Ofsted employs all sorts of contractors to do its work for it, I seriously doubt anyone can say its reports are consistent in any way, even if not occasionally ideologically biased. Who inspects the inspectors?

straggle Sat 26-Oct-13 10:16:29

No, this one was 'Needs improvement'

And it was founded by the headteacher who employed his family members. So while the financial director has blamed him, and the DfE may blame the governors, when leadership and governance are intertwined like this there is inevitable room for corruption. The real problem is that they are outside LA control. For the moment converter academies are out of the spotlight but they are established schools. There's no precedent for this much power and money to be given to individuals setting up schools.

ipadquietly Sat 26-Oct-13 10:17:09

How is ofsted getting the all important progress measures when the schools have been open for less than 2 years and don't yet have full intake?

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