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youlookalotlikeme Thu 08-Nov-12 08:46:24


Does anyone have a view on this school - positive or negative?

Considering for my DD (yes, yes, PFB before anyone asks). Have tried asking in Education, but not getting any replies.


mumteacher Thu 20-Dec-12 15:02:06

OP- Habs is a great school, lovely grounds.

Entry is competitive but they have 4+ and 5+ unlike Nlcs which only have 4+.

Good luck.

mirry2 Mon 19-Nov-12 22:53:45

Thanks babybarrister, assumptions made about the Habs student backgrounds are depressingl wrong.

babybarrister Mon 19-Nov-12 20:20:43

I am an 'ethnic' too - frankly we formed the majority even 25 years ago. To be honest as a HAG I am not a massive fan of the school in many ways, but for those who are keen to criticise, at least get the facts right ...

Xenia Mon 19-Nov-12 19:57:05

I am afraid I saw it as a huge advantage not a disadvantage that my girls at Habs and NLCS were educated with all kinds of girls from all over. It's wonderful to be in a meritocracy as that is what much of the City and many careers are like now.

Nor do I accept that Habs is some kind of exam factory. They have a lake, huge load of fields, I loved the grounds. It's just delightful in terms of facilities. NLCS has lovely grounds too, in the place Handel lived for a while where indeed Handel today is often played.

Parents who don't like these schools can avoid them but they are in the top 5 for having the most girls into good universities in the country so whatever they are doing works as well as producing some lovely rounded girls with lots of hobbies.

I am not sure children go round counting white faces or who is Jewish or whatever. They are just people just like all of us are. The difference from many schools is that they are quite clever and if you're fairly bright it's nice to be in a class with others who are too.

hghschoolmum Mon 19-Nov-12 19:44:53

My child has a non white face smile

APMF Mon 19-Nov-12 18:47:45

I wonder if the non-white parents at the High School go to their non white friends 'Jeeze. There are a lot of white faces at the HS'.

Or is it only white people that concern themselves with these kind of things?

Bonsoir Mon 19-Nov-12 13:45:40

OK smile

babybarrister Mon 19-Nov-12 13:44:33

Actually bonsai it was not dinky that aside this - it was me and I went there - dinky was just quoting and then disagreeing with megringringrin

mirry2 Mon 19-Nov-12 13:39:01

Yes, highschoolmum. That's how it is.

hghschoolmum Mon 19-Nov-12 13:11:22

I started to do a HABs school run this year, I was quite surprised by the overwhelming presence of Asian, Indian, Chinese and many other either mixed race faces, I have never noticed this before, the High School has a fair share, but predominantly still white

There are probably only about 7 "white" faces in the HABs class, infact I count how many white faces I see compared to the rest and I would say it is at least 75% non white.

APMF Mon 19-Nov-12 11:37:08

What's the matter dinky? Did Habs reject your DD?

dinkybinky Mon 19-Nov-12 10:34:14

Habs girls always knew their place - Serve and Obey


Bonsoir Mon 19-Nov-12 09:35:28

"These are not private schools for the very rich who can rely on trust funds - these are hot houses for children who know that they will have to make their own way in the future."

I think that it is useful to make this distinction and I agree with dinkybinky.

mirry2 Mon 19-Nov-12 09:16:36

Lavolcan you don't know what you're talking about if you think Habs is populated by rich upper class white people. Nothing could be further from the truth.

babybarrister Mon 19-Nov-12 09:04:02

I am not sure what benefits there might be in a 'proper public school' but the ethos of Habs when I was there was certainly that osmilef a grammar - hard work!! You only have to consider the school motto to see that Habs girls always knew their place - Serve and Obey!!!grin

LaVolcan Mon 19-Nov-12 09:00:43

Can't be the extensive grounds because I can immediately think of two comprehensives which run to those. Must be the networking with rich upper class white people.

APMF Mon 19-Nov-12 07:44:47

"You don't get the benefits of a proper public school" confused Habs has extensive grounds and excellent sports facilities. Academically it is highly ranked

Or are you referring to the inability to network with a bunch of rich upper class white people?

mirry2 Sun 18-Nov-12 23:38:47

dinkybinky - You seem to be quite disparaging towards Habs and I'm not sure why. Can you enlighten me?

dinkybinky Sun 18-Nov-12 22:41:02

These are not private schools for the very rich who can rely on trust funds - these are hot houses for children who know that they will have to make their own way in the future.

Habs has always seemed to be a glorified Grammar school. I know many people use it as back up if they dont get into the grammar schools. You don't get any of the benefits of a proper public school. At one point it did have the lowest fees in the area although I don't think its the case now.

babybarrister Sun 18-Nov-12 22:39:09

I would say that virtually all of the teachers were extremely good - I do seem to remember they moaned about their pay though! I did not get the impression that they were paid a lot more than state schools though of course things may have changed. I certainly think that the facilities were very good though again probably compared to today's schools they would be considered v basic I imagine. I think that there was a determination to succeed taught at school and instilled from most of the parents - I guess that is very liberating - I never felt that there would be anything I could not do.

babybarrister Sun 18-Nov-12 22:33:36

Smaller classes was certainly not the case when I was there ! 7-11 24 in a class with one teacher and no TA type person ie just one adult. After 11 there were 31 in a classgrin. Personally I think you need to understand the social mix - these schools are jam full of second and third generation immigrants - there is a lot of determination to succeed and very little sitting on laurels. These are not private schools for the very rich who can rely on trust funds - these are hot houses for children who know that they will have to make their own way in the future

mirry2 Sun 18-Nov-12 22:11:23

Lots of the girls i know sat entrance exams for more than one of the most academic state and private schools and also received more than one offer. Popular schools were NLCS, HABS, Henrietta Barnet, St Albans and City of London. I do think these school instill a sense of self belief and quiet determination that with hard work, anything is possible.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Sun 18-Nov-12 21:39:54

Oh sorry dinky I misunderstood you!

For private schools, selection yes but also the self-fulfilling prophecy of a successful school (e.g. Getting the most pupils into the "best" unis year after year) attracting the best pool of girls to select from, attracting and retaining the best teachers and Governors, attracting families who can pay the school fees thus ensuring the financial viability of the school, which then goes from strength to strength, etc.

dinkybinky Sun 18-Nov-12 20:09:04

Hearts, I meant comparing private v private the only difference I can see is selection on entry.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Sun 18-Nov-12 20:00:49

dinky I think a big part of it is resources. Better and more abundant resources translate directly to better opportunities for the girls. Teachers are actively encouraged to spend money on classroom innovations - money that unfortunately just isn't there in the state sector.

So here is my list of what makes a Top Ten (or whatever) school, off the top of my head...

Better resources
Smaller classes
Parental involvement and support*
Being surrounded by other bright hardworking pupils**

*Please note I am not saying that parents in state schools are not involved or supportive, just that in independent (fee-paying) schools, parents might pay more attention precisely because they are paying quite a lot of money.
**Ditto: state schools also obviously have bright and hardworking pupils, I just suspect there may be more of them in independent schools.

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