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i before e except after c... but what's the next bit?

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edam Sun 23-Sep-12 20:50:09

I'm sure someone once posted that there was something more to this rhyme to cope with all the exceptions but I can't remember what it is - anyone know? (ds is doing i before e at school).

AMumInScotland Sun 23-Sep-12 20:55:05

... as long as the sound is "ee"

SeventhEverything Sun 23-Sep-12 20:55:50

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AMumInScotland Sun 23-Sep-12 20:55:58

We had a VCR at school labelled as belonging to the "Sceince" department because someone only paid attention to the first part...

edam Sun 23-Sep-12 21:11:51

Thanks - and :-) to amumin!

maillotjaune Mon 24-Sep-12 14:43:31

We had "and words that end in ght" on the end of the rhyme.

titchy Mon 24-Sep-12 14:48:13

And is the word 'neither' grin doesn't really flow though....

flossyfloo Mon 24-Sep-12 14:52:31

I before E
except after C
Or when sounded as A
as in neighbour or weigh

edam Mon 24-Sep-12 14:57:47

so it should read:

I before E
Except after C
Or when sounded as 'ay'
In words such as neighbour or weigh
Or in other exceptions such as weird or neither...

Not sure I can make that scan or rhyme!

flossyfloo Mon 24-Sep-12 16:25:05

Never heard the last 'weird/neither' line so can't comment on that but the rest rhymes...
E and C rhyme from the first 2 lines
Ay and weigh rhyme from the last two lines.
It's not the best poem admittedly!

edam Mon 24-Sep-12 16:33:51

Flossy, that was me making up the last bit to try to include some of the exceptions listed by MNers. That's why I said I had failed to make it rhyme or scan - feel free to improve it. grin

flossyfloo Mon 24-Sep-12 19:13:59

Oops, sorry blush

As you were.

monsterchild Mon 24-Sep-12 19:16:08

... and weird weighty neighbors

purplepenguin86 Tue 25-Sep-12 00:26:42

If the rule is 'as long as the sound is ee' surely that explains all of those exceptions, as none of them have the 'ee' sound.

I just learnt 'I before E except after C. There are exceptions to every rule!'

WineOhWhy Tue 25-Sep-12 00:37:40

I before E excet after C. Weird!

titchy Tue 25-Sep-12 07:46:04

Penguin - 'as long as the sound is ee or the word is friend'!

Barbeasty Tue 25-Sep-12 08:31:41

Leigh. That's an eee sound and isn't i before e.

BoneyBackJefferson Wed 26-Sep-12 18:43:57

You do know that it doesn't work?

there are more words that disprove the rhyme than it works for.

SeventhEverything Wed 26-Sep-12 19:10:47

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SrirachaGirl Wed 26-Sep-12 19:15:36

I think that rhyme needs to be retired smile.

BoneyBackJefferson Wed 26-Sep-12 21:27:11

I before E

SeventhEverything Wed 26-Sep-12 22:50:55

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edam Wed 26-Sep-12 23:00:55

madeira and caffeine are foreign words though (and foreign doesn't make an eee sound before anyone points that one out...). You can't trust those pesky Portugese to make their language obey the rules of English spelling, oddly enough. Think caffeine is German but possibly reached us via the French.

(I remember learning Spanish at school and realising Tia Maria is Aunt Mary, which makes it sound far less enticing to a 16yo...)

Elibean Thu 27-Sep-12 10:45:32

grin at Aunt Mary

I learned to pronounce 'caffeine' as 'caff-ay-een' but then I'm half French....

edam Thu 27-Sep-12 16:01:00

caff-eye-un, huh? Very European and sophisticated! <lights Gauloise, adjusts beret>

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