It is obvious that ALL children do not like sports or performance in same

[GabbyLoggon]

Give the kids a say in this

[reallytired]

Kids don't get a say in Maths lessons, they don't get a say in spelling tests. A undiagnosed dyslexic chid suffers humilation in the classroom everyday. Many children with learning difficulites shun reading. Why should a child be allowed to shun PE?

Good PE teaching will differenitate and include children of all ablities. A good PE teacher will not humilate any child. There needs to be a balance between competitive sport and fitness of life. Learning to lose gracefully is an important skill.

[mollymole]

at what age do you want this to start

[Butterbur]

Everybody needs to find some sport/dance/activity that they can do to keep physically fit and healthy.


Schools have a twofold role to play:

To give opportunities for sport to all children, some of whom have no other chance to do it. And I think the National Curriculum's 2 hours is paltry, and their should be at least an hour a day of sport for all children.


To expose children to different activities so that they can see which ones they enjoy.


Next you'll be saying that kids spend too much time sitting on the sofa playing computer games and getting obese. Allowing them to opt out of school PE is not going to help much is it?

[GabbyLoggon]

really tired and butter bur...please get your cards on the table are you following Toryled government policy? are Calm Down cameron and the bankers pulling some strings,

There are good PE teachers and bully PE teachers. You are even suggesting parents do not know there kids better than teacher. Come off it; and this debate could be 22 carat gold p[re league.

I AM VERY KEEN ON SOME THINGS. But I do not force my will on other people get it?

[GabbyLoggon]

Lets have the real questions answered p;ease

You will kow that 2 children have died in presumably (compulsory) school runs in recent years Whats the injury rate?

We dont need royal proclmations form teachers. We need real debate/ Get stuck in .(But its not compulsory ok)

[Butterbur]

What did they die of, Gabby? If it was an undiagnosed cardiac problem, then their cards were already marked.

[meditrina]

One of the cases (2008) was Jack Sheriff - a boy very keen on sports who suffered a completely unforeseeable heart attack.

[Butterbur]

A tragedy, of course, but - and have just googled him - it was at the start of the course, so hardly due to bullying PE teachers.

[meditrina]

PE in the National Curriculum. The 2009 review was not implemented, so it's from 2007 (not Tory!). It's all couched in terms of the acquisition and application of skills, not competition. How well individual schools and teachers deliver the NC is a question that goes beyond just PE.

[reallytired]

I don't that the odd freak death is reason to allow children to opt out of physical excercise. I sure more lives are saved by making children do PE than are lost.

Two deaths among several million school children is a pretty low stastic. When children die, it is hideous, but we need to get a sense of proportion.

GabbyLoggon, do you consider fitness for life important. My son is weak at PE. If the choice was left to him the only excercise he would get would be clicking the mouse on the PC. No, I am not a PE teacher.

[bitsyandbetty]

I hated sport with a passion at school and used to have a verucca for years to avoid sport and showers. I had absolutely no aptitude for it. My DM used to give me a letter the day after sports day to say I was ill so I could bunk off. Would I encourage schools to give pupils the choice? no. The way sport is taught in schools is now far superior to when I was at school and even if not, some of my best school memories were of laughing as the teacher made me go round and round the track because I refused to run the 800m. It has not left me scarred for life. Incidentally, now cycle to work every day and am training for marathon so did not stop me being fit in later life.

[GabbyLoggon]

There was a girl of 1o or 11 whodied. The school said she volunteered for school run with older children so what is it compulsory or voluntary...Are you saying parents views dont matter on their own children? More loco than inlocoif you didg the slang

[meditrina]

Do you mean Rianna Wingett? She had undiagnosed hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. A tragedy, but she could have died at any time. I cannot find any suggestion that her parents had objections to her participation in sport.

[GabbyLoggon]

Is it totallycompulsory or voluntory doteachers know better than parentabout their own Kids(sic) as Gabby Logan seems to callthem Why is not Gabby logan getting incolved in the debate.Its her debate. Is she here under a nick name? I am suprised about the banker bit. Will all the schools sign up?

[reallytired]

How would making sport voluntary save the lives of either Rianna Wingett or Jack Sheriff. Both of them very fairly sporty. Neither of them were fat lumps who refused to do school PE.

If my son refused to partisicipate in a school lesson, then I would punish him.
My son hates Art. Should he be alloed to skip Art?

GabbyLoggon, do you ever make your child do things that he does not want to do?

[GabbyLoggon]

If you dont know if the sporting plan is voluntary or compulsory or optional keep out of it

Kindly remove the offensive words in your post. This is an education site get some. . Colleger rude boy.

[GabbyLoggon]

will other [posters ask colleger to remove his foul post; and get some manners

[GabbyLoggon]

Back to the subject...Mrs Yorath-Logan tells us on her mumsnet site that she is involved in a bankets scheme (nice blokes) to push presumably compulsory sport in schoo;s. Is this also a Tory governemnt scheme?

And it it meant to be compullsory...Or do parents have a say. (the children dont belong to the schools)

Lets have some answers and less Colleger abuse. than you. Am I taking the teaching profession out of their comfort zone. Good

[Colleger]

No, these three messages are more garbled than the previous ones!

[Colleger]

Lol at me getting an education!

[MindyMacready]

Can someone please translate?

[GabbyLoggon]

colleger I have been in more newspapers than you have had hot dinners Colleger. I shall take action on your vulgarity/ (Is that sentence out of your comfort zone?)

[GabbyLoggon]

THE SPORT FOR KIDS (sic) is an important subject.

But it is amzing how easily posters getout of their comfort zone on an Education site. I did not expect it here.

Then the "dont understand pretenders" turn to abuse. Their feathers have been ruffled ; they cant cope without being rude.

If they are teachers. The cliche will come out...CONSEQUENCES a word which has no meaning or a thousand meanings. Please do RIGOR for me. Another teachers cop out word. Do SPORT FOR KIDS and lets have the real details? Or do we have to wait for Private Eye?