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Independant school teachers. Can you help?!

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abitwobbly Wed 30-Mar-11 21:25:12

I am a state school AST, top of my scale and fed up of paper, paper PAPER!
DS is at a lovely prep and I would love a job there. Am I mad to give them my CV?? It would be blushblushblush if they didn't want me
Friends say I'm mad, end of my career etc... but I want to teach in the ethos I believe in for my DS IYSWIM?
Would there be a fee reduction for DS if I did teach at his school?
Would you wait to see if they ever advertise or go for the CV now??

Any advice???

jonicomelately Wed 30-Mar-11 21:27:33

I'm not a teacher but just wondering whereabouts in the country you are?

abitwobbly Wed 30-Mar-11 21:38:01

Why do you ask?? oooooo do you know me in RL??!!

jigglebum Wed 30-Mar-11 21:56:20

Make sure you can spell independent first before you think of applying!!

Have taught in both state and independent sector (albeit at secondary level) and would choose independent every time and hope by the time DS attends secondary school I will be working somewhere he could get a fee reduction for (as we could never afford full fees) There is normally a fee reduction for staff

No harm in giving the prep school your son attends your CV - even if there are no vacancies they will often keep them on file for a year in case.

You may well find it hard to go back into the state sector after being in the prep arena, but at a guess you won't want to!

There are probably lots of prep schools within your area (if you drive) and teachers have to give notice by at least a term before in the independent sector so will be advertising for Sep soon so now is a good time to start looking at the TES

Hope this helps

abitwobbly Wed 30-Mar-11 22:04:22

Woops! Thanks jigglebum!! Could your DS not join your current school?

crazycarol Wed 30-Mar-11 22:23:14

My mum taught in both sectors (secondary) but says she prefers private every time. In the state school she had to teach the kids but in the private sector the kids wanted to learn. She was at a very good selective private school though. At lots of private schools children of teachers (but not other staff) get fee reductions but it varies and isn't always published, although usually available with information pack from school if applying for specific job. I have seen up to 75% reduction! (I wish I was a teacher!). There also tends to be less of the "red tape" that is tied up with teaching the national curriculum but there is always some paperwork.

amerryscot Wed 30-Mar-11 22:25:44

Fee reductions are specific to individual schools. They seem to vary from nothing to almost full fees.

If you want a job at a particular school you have to focus on what that school offers rather than what you don't like about your current school. For a prep school, a desire to get involved in the full life of the school, eg games coaching, goes down well.

What is your subject?

abitwobbly Wed 30-Mar-11 22:34:20

I have spend 6 years on developing curriculum, school ethos improving under performance in local schools......not the sort of thing I can see a great prep needing??!!

I have seen adverts for other local preps but they wouldn't suit DS so I am really really keen on his prep. It seems a little forward to give the head my CV and I get the impression they appoint teachers from prep schools rather than state schools.

They also know what my role is and I think this may worry them as I know from what I have seen and heard, some aspects of T&L are not as strong as they would like. The care and personal development of pupils is outstanding though. It is this I love about it.

amerryscot Thu 31-Mar-11 05:38:28

I think that if a vacancy arises, they will put an ad in the TES.

Most independent schools have a term's notice, so any vacancies should arise very early next term.

senua Thu 31-Mar-11 08:42:03

Next time you see the Head or Chair of Governors HR committee or whatever, can't you 'engineer' a conversation? Dip a toe in the water that way, rather than a full-blown approach with CV. You could even pretend that you were applying to another independent (that you couldn't possibly name, due to confidentiality) and ask for 'advice'.

jigglebum Thu 31-Mar-11 08:55:55

The school I used to work in, before we moved, gave a 70% reduction on fees for the children of FT staff. Worth A LOT of money! I am hoping to be back to FT teaching in a school like this by the time DS gets there ( I am only doing bits and pieces of cover at the moment)

I think Senua's idea is a sound one - have to say that the independent sector jobs are a lot about being in the right place at the right time and having a "face that fits" in my experience. Make yourself known, volunteer to help out at various things/trips etc that your son's school does etc. All helps raise your profile

jonicomelately Thu 31-Mar-11 09:44:54

No I don't know you in real life smile

It's just because I've seen a couple of jobs recently advertised and going to link them for you smile

abitwobbly Thu 31-Mar-11 14:47:29

Thank-you ladies. Great advice. I might have to work on my face and wardrobe then!

manicinsomniac Thu 31-Mar-11 15:36:30

Go for it! I work in independent and have n idea why it should be the end of your career - there are plenty of independent schools around.

Definitely no harm in giving the school your CV, though I wouldn't necessarily expect anything to come of it as most schools will advertise job vacancies. However, it shows you're keen.

Where I work there is an 85-90% fee reduction for full time academic staff. Not eerywhere is that good but many are and I would have thought you'd get at least 50%.

MikeRotch Thu 31-Mar-11 15:40:16

dent

you need to learn to spell first ;)

michaelaB Thu 31-Mar-11 18:11:03

Send your CV and send it to others as well. They don't have to advertise and will often follow up speculative applications.

abitwobbly Fri 01-Apr-11 17:28:42

Thank's michaelaB and manicinsomniac. My only slight concern is with all the changes in state education about to happen - free schools, academy schools etc. Will this impact on private schools? Would my pension be effected??

amerryscot Fri 01-Apr-11 20:07:26

Most private schools use the Teacher Pension Agency, so you should just be able to continue as you are.

Be careful about any private school dabbling with the Free School initiative or any school making major changes to its admission policy.

amerryscot Fri 01-Apr-11 20:11:03

Btw, I don't think it is very tasteful to correct spelling and grammar on web forums, and I am by no means perfect, but private schools are very picky. Read everything over three times and get someone else to do the same.

You pension scheme is effected when you retire.

amerryscot Fri 01-Apr-11 20:12:24

You*r*

MikeRotch Fri 01-Apr-11 21:01:58

Pension will be affected. Not effected. Sheesh

goingmadinthecountry Fri 01-Apr-11 21:36:07

Thanks not thank's as well. Too many spelling/grammar mistakes for mere typos. As a teacher myslef, it's a major gripe of mine.

goingmadinthecountry Fri 01-Apr-11 21:36:50

Myself obv blush - dd jumped on my knee as I was typing

BreastmilkDoesAFabLatte Sat 02-Apr-11 15:27:14

I love correcting other people's typos. No teaching qualifications whatsoever, but could I get a job in an independent school?

MikeRotch Sat 02-Apr-11 15:50:16

Lol

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