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The first agent I submitted to

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LongGoneBeforeDaylight Tue 27-Aug-13 23:32:14

Has requested the full manuscript. It's an enormous agency too. Sent it last week. Hand holding please while I wait?

BigPawsBrown Fri 18-Oct-13 18:07:23

The full manuscript just got rejected. Am beyond devastated sad

Mintyy Fri 18-Oct-13 18:14:10

Oh I'm sorry about the rejection (but you will really need to toughen up, to be beyond devastated at your first rejection doesn't bode well).

Meant kindly.

BigPawsBrown Fri 18-Oct-13 18:16:02

I know - it's not my first now. I've submitted to 14 subsequent agents and had one form rejection and three nice ones. This was however the first rejection of my full manuscript and nobody else has requested the full, which I think is where devastation lies! Also I agree with her criticisms...

TunipTheUnconquerable Fri 18-Oct-13 20:56:31

Can you fix them?

Sorry to hear you're devastated. Keep at it!

BigPawsBrown Fri 18-Oct-13 23:17:18

Yes I think so. One is a bit vague but some very specific stuff too smile

TunipTheUnconquerable Sat 19-Oct-13 11:37:49

That's great then. If you are certain they are good advice, fix them and try her again.
Obviously if you've talked yourself into believing she was going to be the one, it will be hard to take, but actually it's very good news. She thinks it's good enough to take the trouble to tell you what's wrong, and her advice will enable you to make it better thus increasing your chances with others.
Most people I know who are published didn't have a smooth path to publication. One of my online writing group friends recently was about to give up because she'd queried all the agents, and then she got a reply from a small publisher she'd almost forgotten submitting to, and her book is coming out in the next few days smile

bunnybing Sat 19-Oct-13 13:38:09

Oh bum. To look on the positive side you've been given a free critique which you can use to do a rewrite.

I had this twice when I submitted my last novel - ie two agents wanted to see the whole thing having liked the 1st 3 chapters, followed by 2 rejections. I did find their criticisms mostly useful.

The thing is my current novel has got nowhere - have submitted to quite a few agents, just had standard rejections. Trouble is I'm convinced this novel is better than the last... (yes am aware I may be deluded).

BigPawsBrown Sat 19-Oct-13 14:52:17

It's so difficult to know isn't it! I have lost all judgment about what is good or bad about my novel. I was worried, for example, that the voices (dual narrative) weren't believable but she specifically said they were (and that I write fluently and engagingly grin )

What happened with your first novel in the end? The thought of a complete re-write has me pale to be honest but I think it needs to be longer (is 60,000) and she has helped me see where to add to it.

TunipTheUnconquerable Sat 19-Oct-13 18:31:12

Bunnybing, maybe your current one is better but less saleable.

bunnybing Sat 19-Oct-13 20:17:32

The first novel is still unpublished! The second of the agents recommended I send it to a lit consultancy to have it looked at but at the time I didn't want to pay out £££ for something that may well have amounted to nothing anyway.

Tunip, agree that could be possible.

ninah Sun 20-Oct-13 11:11:14

It's horrible. I had similar - next day response from first agent, sent ms, did a rewrite and it was rejected second time around. I tell myself if the qualities of rejection are improving so much it can't be long ... grin

BigPawsBrown Sun 20-Oct-13 12:20:20

I fell myself that too! I have had three rejections (two rejecting first three chapters and one rejecting full ms) but they were all helpful and not form rejections and one was regretful.

ninah Sun 20-Oct-13 12:54:14

there you are then. One yes is all it takes - keep believing in yourself.

BigPawsBrown Wed 23-Oct-13 23:55:42

An agent wants to see me. We're meeting next week!

TunipTheUnconquerable Thu 24-Oct-13 09:01:48

grin grin grin


ninah Thu 24-Oct-13 20:30:01

exactly! wonderful news

BigPawsBrown Sat 26-Oct-13 23:17:21

She has however said that she doesn't think my novel is 'big enough' for a debut but wants to discuss this and any other projects I have. Any idea whether this is likely to be a casual chat and an invitation for me to send her what I write next or an actual offer? I thought a meeting was generally a good sign but she doesn't seem to think my book will make it!

ninah Sat 26-Oct-13 23:51:02

big enough
well that's helpful! hmm
Who knows what agents are after?! Not even God. I do think a meeting is a very good sign though. Please update!

BigPawsBrown Sat 26-Oct-13 23:58:21

I will. It's on Thursday grin

TunipTheUnconquerable Sun 27-Oct-13 21:11:54

This blogpost might be helpful.

It's really hard to second guess. Maybe she will have ideas on how to make it bigger. Maybe she is hoping you have another one up your sleeve to show her. It will be a really useful meeting for you, whatever happens. (And if she did offer you representation there and then obviously that would be fantastic, but it's not the only good possible outcome.)

Good luck x

BigPawsBrown Sun 27-Oct-13 22:47:36

Thanks, that article is really useful. I will let you know how it goes! She did say, "I'm not sure this book is big enough to get you your first publishing deal - do you have any other ideas?" So sounds more like that than rewriting my current book.

GrendelsMum Mon 28-Oct-13 18:28:45

Looking forward to hearing what happens at the meeting, Big Paws.

I've now submitted mine to an agent, so we'll see what happens.

I'm going to set up a spreadsheet to track submissions and rejections, so I hope that's not unduly negative.

BigPawsBrown Mon 28-Oct-13 19:08:02

I have a spreadsheet too. It's great as you know when to chase and who you've already subbed to. I colour them red for rejections and green for requests for fulls smile

GrendelsMum Wed 30-Oct-13 17:10:43

Best of luck for tomorrow smile
The agent has requested a full, so that's a green stripe in the spreadsheet!

TunipTheUnconquerable Wed 30-Oct-13 17:13:54

Best of luck, BigPaws. I'm looking forward to hearing how it goes.

GrendelsMum, are you submitting any more?

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