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mikado1 · 15/07/2018 23:38

Looking at a 1500e mortgage (until bloody 70yo) with overall net income of 5.5k and cc of 1k for 9m of year, which will decrease to say half that in the next 5y. Leaving us with 2.5k each month to cover everything else. Dublin. Is this enough? 2DC. I know it sounds like lots but insurance(s), bills, food, activities, petrol etc... Somehow they mount up. Any advice great, so indecisive and unsure.

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Singlenotsingle · 15/07/2018 23:43

Sounds like you should live comfortably on that! But have you got DC? Do you like to live lavishly? I don't live in Dublin though - maybe there's someone on here who does?

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mikado1 · 15/07/2018 23:49

Thanks for reply. 2dc.

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mikado1 · 15/07/2018 23:50

No to lavishly but don't want to be watching every penny either, would like to go to cinema/for a coffee/buy a top every now and then without worrying!!

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mikado1 · 16/07/2018 01:00

Take off another 1800 for food and bills, inc petrol and phone, having done the sums, so that leaves 700 for emergencies/leisure/footwear/clothing/children activities..

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mikado1 · 16/07/2018 01:01

I suppose I'm thinking of those months when you need to buy them two pairs of shoes plus Christmas presents or whatever.. also talk of rates rocketing in next few years..

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Singlenotsingle · 16/07/2018 07:22

£700 a month for emergencies,/leisure etc what you said? That's loads! You'll be fine!

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dublinbudgetplan · 16/07/2018 08:11

Hi @mikado1 - I just did a speedy name change before talking too much about financial stuff as your figures are identical to what ours will be and we're expecting our first child soon, living in Dublin. So I really hope it's possible as we're not likely to get a pay rise in the next five years!

At the moment our mortgage is 1k a month, but we have significant renovations planned which will take the repayments up to 1500 around the time we're looking at childcare. You can currently get a seven year fix with Ulster bank for something like 2.9% and we're considering that- basically, I think it's important for us we aren't shocked by rate rises when we're paying two lots of childcare.

We've just worked out our monthly fixed non-mortgage bills as:

car 100 euro/month (insurance/tax/petrol, doesn't include depreciation or cost of replacement-we mostly use it to visit family at weekends we don't need it during the week and shouldn't in the future as schools crèches etc are v close)
Phones- 70
broadband - 56/month
Mortgage insurance - 28
House and contents - 46 (wondering if this should go up a bit given increases building costs in Dublin)
Gas and electric - 141 (big leap after snow, was 80, hoping to get it back down)
TV license - 14/month
Property tax - 30 (likely to go up)
Netflix/Now tv - 26/month
Spotify - 10/month

We live quite central and have one car, but mostly walk everywhere, so monthly costs for that are low, but also have other travel costs of circa 180/month so our fixed non-mortgage costs are around 700.

At the moment we eat out/go to the cinema quite a lot, but as we're the last of our friends to have children it's mostly things like brunches, lunches. Our actual food bills are way lower than our friends- we've friends with two kids (6 and 4) who reckon they pay 180/week, we're vegetarian and shop in Lidl but it's generally closer to 60/week. Obviously I know that will go up once there are children but I'm constantly shocked the odd time I do a big shop in Tesco (always comes out around 100) or SuperValu (less said there the better...)

We also don't currently have health insurance, which I'm debating. We combed over about six months of statements and the obvious areas where you have flexibility are car/transport, mindless takeaways/eating out and groceries. I'm hopeful that we may have some grandparent childcare, which could take our childcare costs down to three days a week/circa 700. But will only apply for first child as both sets are getting on a bit, though we're lucky they're close.

At the moment, we're having a few months of putting 2,500 straight into savings to build up a buffer, that's basically a grand a month compared to real costs given no 1k childcare or 500 renovation mortgage increase. I keep meaning to meal plan - at the minute we both buy fairly pricey lunches out in work everyday and we're still getting a takeaway a week. My husband is a fairly exclusive m and s sale, wear things till they fall apart kind of dresser whereas I've been really trying to cut back on clothes spends/use marie kondo to streamline my wardrobe so we don't spend a lot on clothes. But we're getting on fine not spending that grand, and are hoping to do all our big baby purchases out of it too.

Can I ask where you live now? We moved from London and found comparing prices v hard. If you're in another part of ireland, I think most prices e.g. Groceries will be the same but it's the housing and some of the stopping for a coffee things that mount up. Quite a bit depends on where in the city you are too.

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Leela96 · 16/07/2018 12:03

Mikado1 - personally I think €700 is a little tight to cover clothing, holidays, activities etc.

Childrens activities can be expensive - swimming lessons circa €80/90 for 8 lessons, music lessons are even more expensive.

does you €1,800 cover car repairs/replacement?

I'd suggest having a good look at your bills included in the €1,800 and see if you can make any saving there.

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mikado1 · 16/07/2018 13:36

Thanks both.

No it doesn't, all car tax, maintenance and petrol will have to come out of leftovers..

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Leela96 · 16/07/2018 13:40

Then your €1,800 looks very high. I'd have a good look at that again.

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mikado1 · 16/07/2018 13:54

Oh sorry looked at it again, yes it includes phone, petrol, health insurance,all household bills and food.. it doesn't include car tax and insurance as they're a one off annually. Have budgeted slightly over for food for 4, but prefer to do that, rather than the opposite.

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Radyward · 16/07/2018 16:54

Our earnings are 500 euro less but with an 800 euro mortgage and we manage to save. Go on hols and enjoy life. We dont go out much or eat out much. Love cooking fab meals sat nights. We definately do not scrimp on food . Hth

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mikado1 · 16/07/2018 17:17

That is helpful, thank you. We're in turmoil over this decision.

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mikado1 · 16/07/2018 17:37

Do you also pay about 1k in cc?

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Radyward · 16/07/2018 17:58

We do .it can be 2k at times and have 2 kids primary school. No lunch bills as bring own.but that cc bill includes all food petrol etc.
We take a foreign holiday each summer and do a hotel to see santa in dec. Night away witj kids and thats it. We go out once every 2 months eith to a band in the olympia or the like or a comedian etc
Baby sitting is expensive !!

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mikado1 · 17/07/2018 00:05

Ok great, thank you. Do you mean you pay that much in cc for just two DC, both in primary? It's a lot.

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Radyward · 17/07/2018 07:13

Cc is our credit card bill. Petrol. Food. Sundries etc. Everything goes on the card then paid at end of month

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mikado1 · 17/07/2018 08:30

Sorry by cc I mean childcare!

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Radyward · 17/07/2018 08:48

Childcare after school 500 a month for 2. Way dearer for preschool age kids

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Leela96 · 18/07/2018 10:16

Radywart - do you mind me asking what part of the country you are in.

We were paying €1,100 for 2 kids in after school - close to Dublin.
Although the afterschool was a lot cheaper than the €1,800 in creche fees

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mikado1 · 18/07/2018 13:17

That seems a huge amount Leela! What is cost per hour/afternoon? I'll be home around 2.30 do once they're into 1st class, I'll be finished with after school. Still undecided on move in general..

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Leela96 · 18/07/2018 18:29

Afterschool covers bringing them to school, collection and afternoons until 6pm, they also get dinner. The rate stays the same all year even during the summer months.

Both DH & I work fulltime.

What do you do when they are on holidays or do you only work term-time?

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Leela96 · 18/07/2018 18:32

The rate is average of the creches around here.

We are looking at getting an au-pair as the kids are a bit older and want to be at home. won't work out any cheaper thought once you factor in employer prsi etc

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mikado1 · 18/07/2018 18:42

I think under 30hr au pairs means no employer obligations? Could be v wrong. No, I don't work term time. That's a super service you've got, despite high cost.

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Leela96 · 18/07/2018 19:26

Mikado1 - where did you see that on the aupairs, I thought they were all regarded as employees. That would be great if we didn't have to pay employer prsi.

We would only need about 20/24 hours and some weeks even less as I try to work from home 1 day a week & can do school run on those days.

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