None of these rules make any sense...

[Seastheday03]

Whole bus of kids having to isolate after one positive case on the bus, all wear masks. A child the complete other side of the bus still has to isolate for 10 days.

I work in a place where I can work very closely on a long shift with another colleague who tests positive and I don't need to isolate as I'm wearing a mask and taking precautions.

None of it makes any sense anymore.

[TheVampiresWife]

A lot of it has never made sense.

[thenakedmolerat]

most of it doesn't make sense which is why i stopped complying with the bollocks a long time ago.
just wish more people would realise

[FflosFfantastig]

It's ridiculous and doesn't make sense. You are not alone in thinking so!

[Seastheday03]

@thenakedmolerat

most of it doesn't make sense which is why i stopped complying with the bollocks a long time ago.
just wish more people would realise

Im just starting to see the light!! I do take Coronavirus seriously but some of it is just ridiculous now! It's all the children I feel so sorry for now. I'm having to be so careful as I don't get paid for isolation, it's making me feel like I can't see family or friends all because I can't afford time off work.

[thenakedmolerat]

seas I'm so glad you've realised.
My advice is to just get on with what you want to do and ignore as much as you can.
Delete any trace app you have and if you get a 'phone call from an unknown number don't answer it. ( I think the number is 0300 but ignore any unknown to be on the safe side).
Do not ever isolate yourself away, we get one life.

[Toesies]

"I work in a place where I can work very closely on a long shift with another colleague"

@Seastheday03 What does this mean, exactly? Did you work closely with this person during the times in question, or not? Your phrasing seems questionable.

[beastlyslumber]

I was watching this earlier today. It helps make sense of the no sense, but it's quite scary...

[newnortherner111]

Of course it does not make sense. Mr Johnson is Prime Minister and does not do detail.

[aramox]

I agree about not making sense, it never has, but originally the idea was to minimise infections not to completely avoid them, by reducing spread. So some very risky things were mixed with lots of protection, and at some points school kids took most risks while others of us were working at home. Not sure it works like that any more but it still seems to make sense to minimise spread generally where we can - which won't always feel like a fair distribution of opportunities to socialise etc.

[Bargebill19]

A lot of the rules are bat shit. But no one stops long enough to think or question why. If you do, you are labelled as being uncooperative and a granny killer.

[FrenchMustard]

agree with mole rat, its all bullshit and its always been bullshit, just look at all the stuff about hospitality as an example. Apparently covid cant get you if you're sat at a table not wearing a mask, but god forbid you stand up without one or leave the venue after 10pm.

[FedNlanders]

I just assumed I'm not an expert....so I wouldn't understand anyway.

[PumpkinKlNG]

It’s never made sense

[Toesies]

@thenakedmolerat

seas I'm so glad you've realised.
My advice is to just get on with what you want to do and ignore as much as you can.
Delete any trace app you have and if you get a 'phone call from an unknown number don't answer it. ( I think the number is 0300 but ignore any unknown to be on the safe side).
Do not ever isolate yourself away, we get one life.

You're happy to spread your virus around to others, then?

[thenakedmolerat]

toesies
In the same way as we have always spread a virus around, yes.
Wouldn't deliberately cough in someone's face but equally wouldn't lock myself and my family in the house cos one person has a sore throat.
Lucky for you some of us are still keeping the economy going

[52andblue]

It's the utter incompetence and hypocrisy of the Govt that I loathe.
However, the Virus doesn't care about that and it is increasing again.
I am in Scotland & I do follow the FACTS advice: Face coverings, Avoid crowded places, Clean your hands regularly, Two meter distance, Self isolate & book a test if you have symptoms. Seems sensible to me.

[Toesies]

@thenakedmolerat

toesies
In the same way as we have always spread a virus around, yes.
Wouldn't deliberately cough in someone's face but equally wouldn't lock myself and my family in the house cos one person has a sore throat.
Lucky for you some of us are still keeping the economy going

That is wrong on many levels. You don't know who you are coming into contact with - and before you shout 'the vulnerable are all vaccinated anyway', they are not. Some cannot be vaccinated. For many, the vaccination just doesn't work well. A Covid infection would make them very ill.

[WorriedWishingWell]

I agree with @Aramox
The rules have never been about eradicating the virus but on reducing infection levels. So by making a self-isolation rule that is relaxed for the working population and stringent for school children the theory is, we can dampen down levels while not inhibiting the economy more than we have too.
I'm not saying I agree, or that the policy works, but that does seem to be the rationale for inconsistent rules.
🤷‍♀️

[Mreggsworth]

The rules do make sense (kind of)

Gov want to reduce a spread of a virus to protect NHS in order for them to be in a position to carry out vital services and not be overrun by covid.

Gov know to reduce the spread people have to minimise mixing especially when they are at higher risk of being exposed.

Gov know it is not possible to eliminate all mixing, and for essential services and economy to function they have to find a balance between resuming as normal, and maintaining restrictions.

If all NHS staff isolated, we would have no services, people would die as a result.

If people who worked in food industry isolated, we could experience shortages.

If children have to isolate from school, it's annoying, effects education, but no one dies and the economy doesnt take as big of a hit.

There has to be lines drawn somewhere, and unfortunately means some people will draw the short straw.

Just like when people complained we weren't allowed to mix in doors, but could mix in pubs. Pubs need to function to provide jobs and aid the economy, mixing at home benefits no one but the individual. Therefore, when making decisions on finding a balance between keeping economy alive, allowing some freedom while reducing the spread of a virus, then obviously the mixing at home is whats gotta give. Which is similar to the current situation of whom the isolation rules does and doesn't apply to.

Its unfair, but logically it does make sense.

[Covidworries]

@beastlyslumber

She seems completely bonkers to me.

[Toesies]

@thenakedmolerat

toesise I wasn't going to shout that the vulnerable are all vaccinated.
I have no idea who has or hasn't been injected, i just don't care.
I refuse to participate in this madness and find it very odd that so many are.
i think there will be a few embarrassed people as they realise the whole thing is a farce

A farce to what ends? You think the world has shut down for a bit of fun?

[TabithaTiger]

@Seastheday03

Whole bus of kids having to isolate after one positive case on the bus, all wear masks. A child the complete other side of the bus still has to isolate for 10 days.

I work in a place where I can work very closely on a long shift with another colleague who tests positive and I don't need to isolate as I'm wearing a mask and taking precautions.

None of it makes any sense anymore.

But that's not correct though is it? The guidance about health and social care workers not having to self-isolate makes it very clear that it's only in very exceptional circumstances and following risk assessment. You would be expected to follow all IPC guidance at work and would still have to self-isolate outside of work.