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Parents no longer allowed to sing at parent and baby groups

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Layladylay234 · 30/03/2021 14:53

I have no energy left to say how much this angers me

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MixedUpFiles · 30/03/2021 14:54

You do understand that singing is shown to spread the virus much more than speaking, right?

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Soontobe60 · 30/03/2021 14:56

Why does it anger you?

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1990shopefulftm · 30/03/2021 14:56

We ve got rhythm time classes booked in a couple of weeks, at this point I couldn't careless if I can't sing (masks throughout the class with distances mats for baby). I just want to meet other mums and talk to them after five months of this.

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HazeyJaneII · 30/03/2021 14:57

It is a shame but as MixedUpFiles says, it has been shown to be a really effective way of spreading the virus.

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WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 30/03/2021 14:57

You spend a lot of time being angry.

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YouTediousShit · 30/03/2021 14:59

Yes, same with churches, funerals etc. I think most of us got our heads round this a year ago.

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Losttheequipment · 30/03/2021 15:00

Don’t the groups only go on for an hour or so? Most people can refrain from singing for that period of time.

Sing to the baby when you get home.

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Ragwort · 30/03/2021 15:00

Why get so angry, at least you can sing to your baby at home.

I think it is much harder for all the people who live alone and can't sing in church or go to singing group.

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AntiHop · 30/03/2021 15:02

I'm just about to have dd2. I loved baby music classes with dd1. But I think this is a sensible measure. As @MixedUpFiles says, singing increases spread. As does shouting.

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Racoonworld · 30/03/2021 15:02

We weren't allowed to sing in the classes in my area last year either so this isn't new for me. It didn't make a difference to be honest, we were all just so happy to be able to go to a class and talk to others.

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HazeyJaneII · 30/03/2021 15:03

I dont know how old your baby is op, but they will still love you singing with them.

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EmergencyHydrangea · 30/03/2021 15:05

This has been a thing for a year and there's a really good reason for it.

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draughtycatflap · 30/03/2021 15:06

Could you instead prance and gurn with a tambourine?

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Comefromaway · 30/03/2021 15:06

My husband is a singing teacher and I am a member of a group with various performing arts teachers etc.

Singing is allowed but I can totally see why the mitigations that have to be put in place for singing to be able to take place would not be feasible at a parent and baby group. (strict 2m plus apart, back to back not face to face, strict square meterage per person, excellent ventilation etc etc)

My husband has read pretty much all the research associated with measuring the aerosol spread and he doesn't feel these mitigations go far enough.

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Remmy123 · 30/03/2021 15:07

🤣🤣 wtf!!

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Comefromaway · 30/03/2021 15:08

The rules for parent and baby groups returning back are less strict than for performing arts classes as well.

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RMRM · 30/03/2021 15:11

So much endless drama over very sensible precautions. Don't go if you are so angry. Sing to your child at home like everyone else.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 30/03/2021 15:11

Don’t the groups only go on for an hour or so? Most people can refrain from singing for that period of time.

Grin

I haven't seen my parents in two years. Things could still be worse.

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AlexaShutUp · 30/03/2021 15:15

OP, you will be very miserable if you go through life allowing yourself to get so angry about such little things.

You can sing to your baby at home. No harm will come to them as a result of not being sung to in a mother & baby group.

Try to get some perspective. That will be of more value to your child than a bit of singing.

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EssentialHummus · 30/03/2021 15:15

It is sad OP - I loved rhyme time with DD in ye olde times and singing nonsensical rhymes while chucking my baby up and down like a rocket was a big part of that.

If I was one of the providers of this sort of thing I’d be seeing if at least some outdoor classes were possible, where presumably the risk is lower.

It’s quite difficult to make friends and facilitate contact with others when you’re all masked and sitting on different mats at shouting distance, not sure there’s a need for the disdain in some of the replies.

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HazeyJaneII · 30/03/2021 15:15

Don’t the groups only go on for an hour or so? Most people can refrain from singing for that period of time.

Yes, but its pretty hard when the urge to Hokey Cokey takes hold...

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Totallycluelessoverhere · 30/03/2021 15:16

You can’t even sing at funerals and I think funerals are a bit more important than baby groups so i don’t really think this is an issue worth being angry about.

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Sandgrown1970 · 30/03/2021 15:19

My husband teaches at a couple of U.K. Music Conservatoires. In most of them singing tutorials and lessons have had to go online, incredibly strict rules around choral rehearsals to the point most were cut and also went online etc etc. Our local performance college had to do all in person singing rehearsals in masks for a filmed showcase.

No communal singing in places of worship. None at funerals etc. Professional singing performances and west end shows etc aren’t on and those who have offered online performances have had to do so under the strictest of rules (regular testing, performances suspended if one cast or crew member tests positive, social distancing and masks when not on stage).

Why on Earth did you think baby singing classes would be permitted to go ahead? Droplet spread is far worse with singing and brass and wind instruments. It’s a high risk activity. Babies can’t really social distance. They can’t be vaccinated. Most of their parents won’t be eligible for a vaccine yet. How could this be in person AND Covid secure?

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lunar1 · 30/03/2021 15:19

It's great that they have found ways to reduce risks for the time being and still keep the sessions going. It will all go back to normal when the vaccine rollout is nearing completion.

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WovenFish · 30/03/2021 15:20

Like others have said, sing at home. Sing all day if you like. The fact baby and toddler groups can gather with up to 15 adults and potentially more than 15 children is already a pretty big fucking allowance to enable parents to access the really important support and social aspect needed when you have very young children.

Not being able to sing is a very small concession if you ask Ned

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