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Fredocorleone Wed 18-Nov-20 11:41:52

I just wanted to leave this here, because all I ever read on MN is that people aren't following the rules and that "what's the point of masks when no one is wearing them in shops etc..."

Taken from the BBC just now...

Public Health England's Dr Susan Hopkins starts the UK government data briefing by looking at the first post-lockdown opinions and Lifestyle survey performed by the Office for National Statistics between 5 and 8 November.

She says at this point England had entered its national lockdown, Wales was under a firebreak lockdown which ended on 9 November and Scotland had parts of the coutnry in higher level trestrictions under its five level system.

Referring to a chart of the survey which shows that most people are following the guidance, she says 81% of adults avoided contact with older and other vulnerable people in the previous seven days

She said there was a "very high take up of face coverings outside the home" with 98% of adults wearing them.

Dr Hopkins adds that 38% are working from home because of the pandemic compared to normal working from home rates of about 12% in the previous year.

She says 89% of people wash hands when they return home from a public place.

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Fredocorleone Wed 18-Nov-20 11:43:04

I just thought I would share this because since March I haven't seen anyone not doing what they should be doing. I truly haven't.

By and large the VAST majority are doing everything they've been told to do so I just thought it would be worth reiterating that people are trying their best.

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SirFlouncealot Wed 18-Nov-20 11:51:48

It’s the small % of non mask wearers causing the problem. My DS just recovered from CV after customers at work without masks spent 30 mins coughing all over him during a sale, he hadn’t been anywhere or in contact with anybody so only place he could have caught it. Whole house had to isolate.

Kazmerelda Wed 18-Nov-20 11:57:36

Tbh the masks etc don't mean jack if there is no social distancing.

I have had in the last 2 weeks despite me giving enough room people bumping into me or barging me who then TOUCH me to say sorry IN MY FACE. Stating it's ok they don't have Covid, and get offended when I try to back away to 2 metres.

PurpleDaisies Wed 18-Nov-20 12:02:19

My DS just recovered from CV after customers at work without masks spent 30 mins coughing all over him during a sale, he hadn’t been anywhere or in contact with anybody so only place he could have caught it.

Those customers being out with a cough against self isolation rules is the issue. Much less them not wearing a mask.

SirFlouncealot Wed 18-Nov-20 12:04:01

True...but if the mask doesn’t offer protection what’s the point in anyone wearing them? Would the outcome have been the same? I’m more furious as my DS needs an inhaler for a cold, thankfully it didn’t affect his chest.

helpfulperson Wed 18-Nov-20 12:04:41

I agree most people are following the rules. I think that's why we notice the few who dont.

SirFlouncealot Wed 18-Nov-20 12:05:05

And he was social distancing

Ormally Wed 18-Nov-20 12:08:52

Yes, now if coronavirus could just follow them as well, that would be great.

Coronavirus is following the rules of a novel zoonotic virus in November though.

PurpleDaisies Wed 18-Nov-20 12:12:40

True...but if the mask doesn’t offer protection what’s the point in anyone wearing them?

Recent studies have shown that they do protect the wearer to an extent. There was an announcement by the CDC a few days ago. Plus it’s the law.

MrsTwitcher Wed 18-Nov-20 12:18:05

These surveys are meaningless unless they ask everyone in the UK. They base their findings on a pretty small number of people.

PandemicPalava Wed 18-Nov-20 12:21:41

Bloody hell, look at my thread on family breaking lockdown rules! Says the complete opposite!

MrsTwitcher Wed 18-Nov-20 12:24:23

The survey at the end of September was based on 1800 responses out of 2200 people asked. We had more people than that packed on our local beach. If people are following the advice why do we see reports of parties and busy streets every weekend before anither lockdown starts.

NuttyinNotts Wed 18-Nov-20 12:28:22

Interesting that the question was about avoiding the elderly and vulnerable specifically and not about whether people have been mixing households. In fact stats about compliance on that measure are curiously absent from the quoted paragraph.

QueenBlueberries Wed 18-Nov-20 12:30:05

There are so many other rules regarding self isolation, OP. And I think that's where we are failing. People going out when asked to self isolate after holidays, which in my opinion has been a key factor in causing the second wave. People with symptoms and waiting for test results who go out. People who send kids to school when a member of the family has tested positive. People ignoring symptoms. People going out before the 14 days isolation when asked.

Kazzyhoward Wed 18-Nov-20 12:36:54

Yeah, because people are going to be 100% honest about their covid behaviour when answering a survey aren't they?

Just looking around, the streets, shops, neighbours, etc., shows that most people are complying generally, but certainly not those high levels as per the survey. Our neighbour has a stream of people staying over, (son and daughter yo-yoing between home and Uni and bringing boy/girl friends with them), her sister stayed over last weekend from hundreds of miles away. Another neighbour has just returned from a Canary Islands holiday and didn't isolate at all, and even had friends round a few times during the two weeks after return.

Bluesheep8 Wed 18-Nov-20 12:37:27

I see people breaking the rules regularly. I'm WFH and see it out of the window I'm facing every day.

OffredOfjune Wed 18-Nov-20 12:39:11

Hmmm. Okay

womaninatightspot Wed 18-Nov-20 12:46:27

I don't see anyone really breaking the rules. I think there's the odd quiet playdate under the guise of childcare which I can understand given that these kids are sharing a classroom anyway.

Bluesheep8 Wed 18-Nov-20 13:07:43

Hmmm. Okay

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OffredOfjune Wed 18-Nov-20 13:12:33

Bluesheep8

*Hmmm. Okay*

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People aren't complying. It's very obvious this time round, and just because a few people in a survey say they're washing their hands (which isn't even really a rule) and wearing a mask, does not mean people are complying with the rules.

AlexaShutUp Wed 18-Nov-20 13:14:33

So one in five people are continuing to visit their elderly/vulnerable relatives? That's a concern. I wonder how many more are continuing to mix with other households who are not vulnerable.

I wonder, too, how many people are fully complying with the advice to self isolate when required. I'm guessing that it is nowhere near 100%.

It seems to me that the statistics quoted in the OP only tell half the story. Realistically, there is a reason why we're in the middle of a second wave.

Bluesheep8 Wed 18-Nov-20 13:48:29

offred

People aren't complying. It's very obvious this time round, and just because a few people in a survey say they're washing their hands (which isn't even really a rule) and wearing a mask, does not mean people are complying with the rules.

Ah, understood. And agreed. And I bet the people I'm referring to would say they're complying with the rules on a survey too.

Bluesheep8 Wed 18-Nov-20 13:50:30

I wonder how many more are continuing to mix with other households who are not vulnerable.

loads, from what I keep seeing!

Fredocorleone Wed 18-Nov-20 14:00:44

The problem is the asymptomatic element. There’s probably many people who feel they are complying yet don’t know they have the virus.

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