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Absolutely sick of the judgement, insults and negativity from both sides of the fence

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Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 09:22:19

Just have to say this. This site is a fucking dumpster fire at the moment. On the one hand people going around denying covid is a thing, saying it's "just the flu", we should open everything up, screw the elderly and vulnerable, saying it's a government ploy to control us. On the other hand we have the salivating lockdown crew, calling all and sundry a "covidiot", angrily curtain twitching because their neighbour had their mum round for a cup of tea, shouting "IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, YOU'RE NOT SPECIAL", blithely dismissing people's very real mental health struggles due to lockdown and insisting "YOUNG AND HEALTHY PEOPLE DIE FROM COVID", when the actual data clearly shows that, by and large, they don't.

Can we have some fucking balance please.

My personal situation is this. I have a mum who suffers badly with her mental health and also has a physical health condition which makes her potentially vulnerable to covid. She lives with my adult sister who also has mental health problems. Until 2 December, I won't see either of them per the lockdown rules. If the lockdown is extended, I'm afraid I will be seeing them because at that point the risk of them being isolated is higher than the risk of me infecting them with coronavirus. I may well pull my DS out of school in order for me to do this. Am I, in any way, the same as someone have 100 people over for a christening party, or someone having eight friends from eight different households round for dinner? Am I just meant to be "community spirited" about this and ignore them for months on end? And please fuck off with Zoom because no it is not the same and no it does not help.

It would be extremely nice if there could be a little bit of empathy on both sides here. It would be nice if the anti lockdowners could stop sneering at the very real concerns of teachers, HCPs and other people at risk of contracting covid from their jobs. It would also be nice if the pro lockdowners could stop being sneery and condescending about people's mental health and stop implying that lots are just making things up to bend the rules. That isn't for you to decide. You don't know what is going on behind closed doors.

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dollychopss Mon 02-Nov-20 09:37:58

Well
Said x

BertieBloopsMum Mon 02-Nov-20 09:40:05

That's a very sweary, ranty post from someone who says they want people to show more empathy confused

Legoandloldolls Mon 02-Nov-20 09:41:40

I totally agree. The finger pointing is utterly depressing. There is no blame. Its nature. Get over that basic fact. Blaming will not make this stop.

VanGoghsDog Mon 02-Nov-20 09:42:08

Gosh, quite a lot of irony and contradiction in your post!

Be empathetic as long as it's on your terms. Have I got that right?

palacegirl77 Mon 02-Nov-20 09:43:41

Was the swearing necessary? Its a debating site.

lazylinguist Mon 02-Nov-20 09:53:04

Well said. Anybody who doesn't understand that there are valid and understandable reasons for both being pro and anti the various Covid measures is being a bit dim. As is anyone who thinks that accusing, shaming and insulting people is a useful way of dealing with the pandemic. Virtue-signalling, hypocrisy and aggressive self-righteousness are rife at the moment, and they only make everything worse.

Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 09:54:18

I'm sorry, I understood we were all grown ups on this thread and swearing was therefore allowed.

Be empathetic as long as it's on your terms. Have I got that right?

Literally the complete opposite of what I said.

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Nextity Mon 02-Nov-20 09:56:48

Yep - I have been a bit surprised at how this has all blown up!

BertieBloopsMum Mon 02-Nov-20 09:57:53

Completmentfille

I'm sorry, I understood we were all grown ups on this thread and swearing was therefore allowed.

Be empathetic as long as it's on your terms. Have I got that right?

Literally the complete opposite of what I said.

Literally not the opposite of what you said. Let me paraphrase:

WILL EVERYONE ON HERE STOP BEING SO FUCKING JUDGEMENTAL, ESPECIALLY OF MY CHOICES, AND SHOW SOME FUCKING EMPATHY

Nice.

Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 09:58:25

I haven't seen a single person on this site argue that they want to be able to have parties etc. Most saying they will break lockdown rules are doing things like seeing (mentally) vulnerable relatives or driving somewhere to have a walk.

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Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 09:59:55

I'm terribly sorry for swearing and offending your delicate sensibilities!

Obviously the real problem here is my swearing and not the hoards of posters calling others selfish twats or telling teachers to suck it up because it's their job.

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lostallhope77 Mon 02-Nov-20 10:00:49

The selfish ones are the rich people on secure jobs calling for more lockdown to “save the NHS”, whilst I lose my job and my home. The last lockdown made no fucking difference anyway because look where we are now! But hey, me and my family are just collateral to the great Covid experiment. Perhaps I’ll just end it all now because with no job and no home, I don’t see the point of struggling on any longer.

echt Mon 02-Nov-20 10:01:01

Most saying they will break lockdown rules are doing things like seeing (mentally) vulnerable relatives or driving somewhere to have a walk

Which is why it will go tits up, be extended, because everyone has such good reasons to not follow the rules.

picklecustard Mon 02-Nov-20 10:01:39

Yeah I get what you mean, same with other social media too. People seem to be one extreme or the other and I wish there was more balance.

Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 10:02:21

The anger needs to be directed to the government who couldn't get their act together to get a decent test and trace system up and running.

echt

Driving somewhere for exercise is allowed, as is caring for a vulnerable relative. You are proving my point exactly.

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palacegirl77 Mon 02-Nov-20 10:02:34

Maybe its your own delicate sensibilities that are offended? I rarely post, and choose to ignore most opinions that differ to my own, but your post was just so rude I felt I had to reply.

justanotherneighinparadise Mon 02-Nov-20 10:03:17

Society is completely polarised in all areas at the moment. The pendulum is either fully extended to the left, or fully extended to the right. No one will give ground. I suspect the internet fuelled this as people now have online tribes who validate their strong opinions.

Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 10:03:30

I'm amazed that, of all the posts on this site, mine was the one you felt was rude enough to warrant a response.

Report it by all means.

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echt Mon 02-Nov-20 10:04:27

Driving somewhere for exercise is allowed, as is caring for a vulnerable relative. You are proving my point exactly

Not sure what the point is as I was responding to a poster who said such activities were rule breaking.

LangClegsInSpace Mon 02-Nov-20 10:04:28

During the last lockdown and in all the tiers there was an exception for providing care or support to a vulnerable person. The new legislation is not out yet but I'd be very surprised if this was not allowed flowers

Rosehip10 Mon 02-Nov-20 10:04:41

"Dumpster"? You mean a skip?

MaMaD1990 Mon 02-Nov-20 10:04:46

Well this is going to go down well...here with popcorn.

lostallhope77 Mon 02-Nov-20 10:04:50

I’m going to lose everything because of a virus that kills about 1% of people who get it.

Completmentfille Mon 02-Nov-20 10:05:22

"Dumpster"? You mean a skip?

I'm not British, so no, I mean a dumpster.

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