Support bubble / vulnerable care. Me and dm have 2 different opinions

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Christmaspud20 Mon 02-Nov-20 02:11:02

My nan is classed as vulnerable 79, health issues

I have an uncle who is a single person with severe MH issues and alcoholism.
They are a bubble.

However my mum is the one who provides the most care for my nan other than carers mum sorts her prescriptions, orders things like bed pads (guess its a pride thing and nan doesn't want the men doing it)
Mum does her food ordering or shopping, her banking and her cleaning when she can, goes up there if there's an issue with anything etc.

I belive my mum can still do this. She believes she can't because my uncle goes up there and hell have to try and do some. Which we both know isn't possible and my nan would suffer especially as my uncle isn't reliable.
She believes nan can only have 1 person.

Am I correct in my thinking that mum can still go to attend to nans needs?

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Whataloadofshite Mon 02-Nov-20 02:14:55

She can still go as it would come under care of a vulnerable person. Your uncle is also vulnerable and as much as they are in a bubble, your mum can still go and help your nan under the guidelines of providing essential care.

If she refuses to do it, are you able to assist?

Christmaspud20 Mon 02-Nov-20 02:18:23

She wouldn't refuse. She just believes she can't.
I have 2 under 3 so not ideal unfortunately.

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WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants Mon 02-Nov-20 02:18:24

You're correct.

You (in this care, your mum) can provide care, to anyone that needs it.

Your Ban can have care.

I haven't read a single thing that limits how much care you can give or receive or the number if people involved.

Obviously the fewer, the better, but needs must.

Do you think your mum might be hoping if she 'can't' your uncle will have to step up?

Christmaspud20 Mon 02-Nov-20 02:19:50

I've read the guidelines over and over and couldn't see anything saying she couldn't or the amount of people but just keep to a minimum where possible

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Lifeispassingby Mon 02-Nov-20 04:49:07

A care bubble is 2 households exclusively isn’t it? So a vulnerable person has care from 1 other household only

Sockwomble Mon 02-Nov-20 06:30:42

"A care bubble is 2 households exclusively isn’t it? So a vulnerable person has care from 1 other household only"

People can have care from as many people as is needed. It is a support bubble that is limited to 2 households. There aren't care bubbles.

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Sockwomble Mon 02-Nov-20 06:33:44

The difference is that when providing care you should be only in close contact where necessary which will depend upon the type of care needed. When in a support bubble that doesn't apply.

Mindymomo Mon 02-Nov-20 07:20:38

She is allowed as your Nan is vulnerable and is the person buying her food and sorting out medication etc., In the last lockdown a friend of mine had to decide who in their family was going to be able to visit their mother as the carers insisted on it only being one person.

When my father was bedbound and had carers, they hardly provided anything and would tell me what I needed to order, ie bed pads, wipes, cream.

Sweetchillijam Mon 02-Nov-20 07:36:59

My mum the age as your nan still has my grumpy single brother living it at home. She was recently widowed and doesn’t need caring as such but she does need support with certain things. We were in tier one so sister and myself were providing this. But I now believe we won’t be able to go anymore as we can’t meet inside. She believes she we can still go and see her. Its more company she needs, help understanding a letter, ordering something online etc.

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