Childcare and grandparents

(18 Posts)
kezziethecat Sun 01-Nov-20 19:28:07

My friend, who is a sahm, says that you are able to use childcare whenever you like from grandparents if you form a childcare bubble. So she will be sending her children to her in laws, who live close by, for a few hours every other day so she can have a break. I thought that it had to be more of a formal arrangement and necessary because of work commitments. Is she right? Really struggling to understand the childcare rules.

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LJC1234 Sun 01-Nov-20 19:31:13

I don't think it's been defined as to who can access childcare and for what reason just that it can be informal

Findahouse21 Sun 01-Nov-20 19:32:19

Do you think she's not entitled to a break as a sahm?

Anniemabel Sun 01-Nov-20 19:35:22

The spirit of the rule is so that working parents who normally use grandparents instead of paid for childcare don’t get completely screwed over. The rule clearly isn’t designed for your friend’s situation. However technically she is ‘allowed’ to use the grandparents for formal childcare - it doesn’t specify what the parents have to be doing!

I normally use my parents for childcare a lot, particularly after school when I’m at work but I’ve been managing without since March because they are old and I don’t want to put them at risk.

Hall84 Sun 01-Nov-20 19:35:45

It has to be an exclusive bubble so we've bubbled with my parents (they provide care 2 days a week) and SIL has bubbled with in-laws. We'd planned to alternate 1 day a week but it keeps everyone safer as me and BIL aren't WFH.

kezziethecat Sun 01-Nov-20 19:48:53

Not saying she's not entitled to it - I'm a sahm too so know it can be very tiring. I just didn't interpret the childcare bubble in that way. I presumed it was helping out those who struggled to work without grandparents providing childcare.

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babychange12 Sun 01-Nov-20 19:51:35

Interpret it how Cummings did

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booandbumpp Sun 01-Nov-20 20:03:38

My mum will be coming round to the house every so often so I can sleep while she looks after my 5 week old. My friend’s mum comes round to care for her 3 year old while she does uni work in the attic. It’s child care - not only if you work care!

tigger001 Sun 01-Nov-20 20:35:44

If you have formed a bubble with one person outside your household who lives alone, that can continue.

Or a child care bubble, not working person bubble or support bubble like taking food to an elderly person.

Redolent Mon 02-Nov-20 06:46:24

The rules are detailed here:

A childcare bubble can be created to enable parents to work, or for the purposes of respite care.

The latter in her case.

www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

Cupcakegirl13 Mon 02-Nov-20 06:54:23

I love the way ‘Mumsnet’ posters are not always very ‘mum’ friendly 🤨

Redolent Mon 02-Nov-20 06:57:00

Cupcakegirl13

I love the way ‘Mumsnet’ posters are not always very ‘mum’ friendly 🤨

I’ve seen some posters become very angry that preschoolers are no longer included in permitted one-to-one meetups...

kezziethecat Mon 02-Nov-20 08:58:06

How am I not being mum friendly? I'm trying to clarify the rules so I know what to follow. I thought my children wouldn't be able to see my in laws for 4 weeks and was preparing them for that but now I see that they can.

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ihatecovid19 Mon 02-Nov-20 09:18:23

Redolent

The rules are detailed here:

A childcare bubble can be created to enable parents to work, or for the purposes of respite care.

The latter in her case.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november


Am I being daft? I can't see 'for the purposes of respite care' in that link?

(In my defence I'm surviving on 4 hours sleep at the moment. smile)

LJC1234 Mon 02-Nov-20 10:30:59

PP it's at the very bottom of the sentence under point 8

MrsMigginsMate Mon 02-Nov-20 11:31:57

I wasn't sure of the correct interpretation of the rules here either. So i asked my childminder if I could continue because I'm not currently working, she checked the rules and said yes. It falls under the definition of 'respite care' and you do not have to be working in order to use formal or informal childcare.

StatisticalSense Mon 02-Nov-20 12:13:36

@MrsMigginsMate
Childminders fall under different rules in any case as they are registered settings that are considered to have an educational value and therefore fall into the rules for educational settings.

Starlight39 Mon 02-Nov-20 12:20:48

I think you can have an "informal" childcare bubble eg grandparents but they can't care for children from multiple households. So my parents will care for my nieces and not my DS as my DB and DSIL need the childcare more than I do.

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