Music Lessons and Lockdown

(21 Posts)
ilovemydogandmrobama2 Sun 01-Nov-20 14:37:29

Confused about lockdown rules for music lessons where it's not in a class, but 1:1.

Would this from the government web site apply?

"Some youth services may be able to continue, such as 1-1 youth work and support groups, but most youth clubs and groups will need to cease for this period..."

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ChristmasCantComeSoonEnough Sun 01-Nov-20 14:42:38

I thought it was just outside one to one but agree that doesn’t wake it clear. I guess the details will come out once it’s been put to parliament.

onemouseplace Sun 01-Nov-20 14:42:50

We're going back to 1:1 lessons via Zoom as that's what we did during the first lockdown.

Our teacher can teach via Zoom, so for me that means they don't need to come to our home. It's not as good as face to face lesson, but far better than nothing at all.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 Sun 01-Nov-20 14:58:43

We also did Zoom during the last lockdown, and agree better than nothing, but this time they will be going to school so was hoping there may be exceptions?

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CraftyGin Sun 01-Nov-20 15:00:45

My DD’s singing lessons were on Zoom during the lockdown.

I imagine the peri teacher will have to do a risk assessment before committing to in person lessons.

Digeridont Sun 01-Nov-20 15:50:08

Reading the guidance, I suspect only educational institutions and some childcare (that’s registered and which enables parents to work) will be allowed to carry on in person. I’m waiting for confirmation from music teachers, but if it’s OK to carry on in person I’d rather do that for singing lessons, as accompaniment doesn’t work by zoom, and no-one here can play the piano well enough to do it. For instrument lessons, I’m happy to swop back to zoom.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 Sun 01-Nov-20 15:54:08

@Digeridont - Think you may be right, although am clutching at straws and than music could be deemed, 'educational..'

Obviously with the caveat that the music teacher is happy for lessons to continue as most of them teach in their own home.

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Digeridont Sun 01-Nov-20 15:59:24

@ilovemydogandmrobama2 I think from the wording of the guidance it’s educational institutions, rather than educational purposes, that are exempt. Need to wait for clarification (probably on Tuesday, as they’ll need the detail for the Paliamentary vote), but that’s my best guess at the intention, from years of reading guidance.

herecomesthsun Sun 01-Nov-20 16:01:27

I have a DC who does brass. They went up a grade in 4 or 5 months. The teacher was delighted and thinks it's a really good idea to continue on Skype.

TheFlyingAspidistra Sun 01-Nov-20 16:02:21

So 1:1 lessons that take place in school should be okay?

Comefromaway Sun 01-Nov-20 16:24:32

ISM are advising members they cannot teach face to face unless they are working in An academic school as part of the curriculum.

StatisticalSense Sun 01-Nov-20 16:26:09

No. That exception is for things like mental health support services and young carers groups not instrumental lessons.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 Sun 01-Nov-20 16:27:54

The wording on the government website says that you cannot leave your home except ''... for childcare or education, where this is not provided online...'

It's a long shot but am hoping that music could possibly be, 'education..'

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ilovemydogandmrobama2 Sun 01-Nov-20 16:29:00

@Comefromaway - that's interesting. Is it from the previous lockdown or most recent one that's starting on 5 November?

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xyzandabc Sun 01-Nov-20 16:29:15

My kids school obviously haven't been in touch yet but they had a back up plan last term about music lessons.

Every student has a chrome book anyway so at the allotted lesson time, student goes to the music room as normal and then the teacher teaches from home via Google classroom/teams or whatever it is they have on their Chromebook. There would be a member of staff in the music corridor in case of a problem. Lessons are quite popular so there would be 2-5 lessons going on at any one time normally.

I wouldn't be surprised if they implement this this half term.

Comefromaway Sun 01-Nov-20 16:29:35

ilovemydogandmrobama2

The wording on the government website says that you cannot leave your home except ''... for childcare or education, where this is not provided online...'

It's a long shot but am hoping that music could possibly be, 'education..'

Further down the guidance it specifies that childcare or education is registered childcare including wraparound that enables parents to work or have respite & full time schools & colleges. It says that most children’s activities will have to close.

TheFlyingAspidistra Sun 01-Nov-20 16:31:09

So are individual lessons treated as being part of the curriculum?

HitchikersGuide Sun 01-Nov-20 16:37:41

Agree with Digeridont that education refers to a standard school-type educational setting, probably in some way referencing the Education Act. The actual definition will be in the Coronavirus Act itself, probably near the beginning if you can bear to have a read (sorry to be lazy but it's pretty dismal!)
But I very much doubt it will cover private homes or privately rented space.

StatisticalSense Sun 01-Nov-20 16:40:08

@TheFlyingAspidistra
In primary and the vast majority of secondary schools, no. In a small number of specialist schools and universities offering Music courses, yes.

TheFlyingAspidistra Sun 01-Nov-20 16:50:23

That’s actually worse than in the first lockdown then - at least we could do online lessons then. School have gone to a lot of effort to install screens in the rooms and with cleaning after each use/ full ventilation etc. I can’t see how they will manage online lessons in school given how many children take lessons.

Comefromaway Sun 01-Nov-20 16:54:51

ilovemydogandmrobama2

The wording on the government website says that you cannot leave your home except ''... for childcare or education, where this is not provided online...'

It's a long shot but am hoping that music could possibly be, 'education..'

Then current one issued late last night.

www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november#childcare-and-childrens-activities

Parents will still be able to access some registered childcare and other childcare activities (including wraparound care) where reasonably necessary to enable parents to work, or for the purposes of respite care.

“Early years settings can remain open. Parents are able to form a childcare bubble with another household for the purposes of informal childcare, where the child is 13 or under. As above, some households will also be able to benefit from being in a support bubble, which allows single adult households to join another household.

Some youth services may be able to continue, such as 1-1 youth work and support groups, but most youth clubs and groups will need to cease for this period.”

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