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Why doesn’t China have a second wave?

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Custardcream67 Sun 01-Nov-20 13:41:10

China had the initial wave of infections early 2020 then hardly any cases since. Their population is much bigger than UK. How can they have it so under control. Seems suspicious to me.

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halcyondays Sun 01-Nov-20 13:43:14

They test whole cities in a few days and enforce quarantine strictly.

Soubriquet Sun 01-Nov-20 13:44:01

Obviously it’s because China released the virus and everyone has got the vaccine already. Duuuuh

No, I think it’s because the Chinese will follow the government guidelines completely, where as everyone else tends to half heart it

FrankieFrankFrank Sun 01-Nov-20 13:47:42

We lived in China a few years ago so have lots of friends there. No one we know knows of anyone who has had it so I don’t think the figures are suspicious. They just did a proper lockdown where no one was allowed out at all, and testing is whole cities. Also, the government is much more powerful that here so people don’t break the rules!

Solina Sun 01-Nov-20 13:51:33

Because they follow rules and their government can enforce rules much quicker and can be more strict?

Elsewyre Sun 01-Nov-20 13:54:53

Custardcream67

China had the initial wave of infections early 2020 then hardly any cases since. Their population is much bigger than UK. How can they have it so under control. Seems suspicious to me.

Cause China has an entirely state control media and social media system.

Just because you havent heard of something happening in China doesnt mean it isnt hapoening

Elsewyre Sun 01-Nov-20 13:55:24

Solina

Because they follow rules and their government can enforce rules much quicker and can be more strict?

They welded doors shut on apartment buildings....

Dustysilkflowers Sun 01-Nov-20 13:56:46

My friend lives in China they are well prepared for virus out breaks.

Also the Gov are very heavy handed.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles Sun 01-Nov-20 13:58:23

I thought it was because the Chinese Government issues the figures and also censors the internet. So who really knows what are the true facts? hmm

Lollipity Sun 01-Nov-20 13:58:32

They are an authoritarian country which gives them the power to enforce quarantine etc on their citizens and other travellers. They mass test if there are any outbreaks and if you test positive there is no option to ride it out at home - you are taken to a covid hospital.

There is also a quarantine process for every person entering China. 2 weeks with rigorous daily monitoring - either hotel or home quarantine. We were taped into our apartment and had an electronic tag) for almost 2 weeks in March when we returned.

MarjorytheTrashHeap Sun 01-Nov-20 14:04:08

They welded doors shut on apartment buildings....

They were electronically "sealed" which meant the authorities could trace movement. Still very Draconian from a Western point of view but not quite the same as welding people inside so they couldn't get out in an emergency or to get supplies.

Introvertedbuthappy Sun 01-Nov-20 14:05:29

I live here in China. Our lives are pretty much normal here. It's not BS. They tested the whole of Qingdao in a few days and the government have very tight control over the population. People just follow the rules. We still wear masks on the metro despite no local transmission since March. Also no one is allowed in without completing government quarantine and can only come in with both negative Covid test in last 3 days and a negative antibodies test.

Missandra Sun 01-Nov-20 14:05:59

As pp said last time they welded people’s doors shut so they couldn’t leave their homes. I’d rather catch the virus (which I did) than leave in China.

ChardonnaysPetDragon Sun 01-Nov-20 14:07:22

They say they don't have it.

Introvertedbuthappy Sun 01-Nov-20 14:08:09

Aye, they didn't 'weld doors shut'. When we completed home quarantine in March we had a magnet on the door that would alert authorities if we opened it and had to message before we opened it (to leave out rubbish or pick up the delivery left on the doorstep). If we hadn't complied we would have been taken to a government quarantine but we're not idiots so we didn't break quarantine and when our release papers were signed got the magnet removed and were allowed to come and go as we liked.

Elsewyre Sun 01-Nov-20 14:08:17

MarjorytheTrashHeap

*They welded doors shut on apartment buildings....*

They were electronically "sealed" which meant the authorities could trace movement. Still very Draconian from a Western point of view but not quite the same as welding people inside so they couldn't get out in an emergency or to get supplies.

Erm nope

Theres also that rather disturbing video of the woman screaming from inside her apartment as they fasten several bars across it

Elsewyre Sun 01-Nov-20 14:08:53

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Krampusasbabysitter Sun 01-Nov-20 14:08:54

China has an incredibly poor record of human rights and also a strong reputation for withholding, misleading and false information. So, yes on the one hand, it is very likely that the virus spread may have been contained by very severely enforced lockdown rules with none of the flouting seen in the West. However, news coverage of this new virus was initially actively suppressed in China and those who leaked the information did not fare well. Another confusing aspect is that tests on tissues taken from patients in the west, for example in France, showed Covid infection months before it supposedly spread to the West. A great number of people reported extreme flu like symptoms as far back as last November, clouding the supposed timeline and start of this pandemic. There are also doubts about the scale of the number of deaths in China. In order to access any kind of public service in China and be officially registered or acquire a health code requires a mobile phone. Records showed that the number of active phone accounts in spring 2020 dropped by almost 21 million compared to the end of 2019. Even if some of the drop can be explained by the closure of some telecom companies, there is still a huge unexplained number of phone account holders vanishing. Another report showed huge numbers of coffins for cremation being ordered and dispatched in spring in the most affected regions that far surpass the official death toll reported by China. So, I expect the real figure to be en par with that of other countries or possibly even higher.

Meepmeeep Sun 01-Nov-20 14:09:45

Maybe they invented a vaccine that has been rolled out and put strict embargo on it...

Gingernaut Sun 01-Nov-20 14:10:55

Because we may never know for certain how China has fared.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-53005768

Introvertedbuthappy Sun 01-Nov-20 14:11:08

Phone holders disappeared as they all flew back to home countries. Many colleagues left it until the end of March then couldn't return as they shut the borders. One school here lost 227 staff that way! They didn't all die hmm

flaviaritt Sun 01-Nov-20 14:11:44

Authoritarianism. I don’t want to live like that.

RedToothBrush Sun 01-Nov-20 14:16:19

Why isn't China, who harvest the organs of political prisoners but deny doing so (which includes journalists who try to expose the human rights abuses of citizens by the state), having a second wave?

This is the same Chinese State who say covid only started in Dec 2019 despite there being evidence for it already having spread to Europe in at least as early as November 2019 yeah?

[ ponders ]

popcornlover Sun 01-Nov-20 14:17:03

They’re more obedient. They didn’t invite all their mates over for BBQs then go crazy on Twitter about Cummings.

BooseysMom Sun 01-Nov-20 14:20:55

Does anyone remember that panorama prog about China and the two young people who were reported to have been inciting public disorder on social media by accusing the government of covering up the actual death rate? They apparently disappeared one day never to be seen again. sad

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