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Why aren’t the government doing more?! Are they trying to achieve herd immunity?!

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bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:19:24

Why the heck aren’t the government doing more? Don’t you think it’s getting ridiculous now?!

UK to has had the highest cases in Europe!
Are we supposed to just live like RBI’s now? Accept it?!

Surely this is much much worse than in March and back then a lockdown was imposed!! Why aren’t they doing more?!

Are they trying to just achieve some sort of herd immunity???

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FreshFreesias Tue 06-Oct-20 18:21:42

Because people are fed up that their lives are being destroyed for a virus that kills vanishingly few.
Do the dreadful side effects of lockdown not bother you at all, OP?

ComicePear Tue 06-Oct-20 18:23:03

In terms of number of cases per 1m population, according to worldometer we rank 21st in Europe.

bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:23:57

FreshFreesias

Because people are fed up that their lives are being destroyed for a virus that kills vanishingly few.
Do the dreadful side effects of lockdown not bother you at all, OP?

@FreshFreesias

How can you say it doesn’t kill a lot?

In Europe today over 900 people have died of Covid?

Yes lockdown wasn’t great, but I would prefer that than feeling afraid to leave my house because of Covid! 😔

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secretllama Tue 06-Oct-20 18:24:21

Herd immunity is not a bad thing.

bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:24:35

ComicePear

In terms of number of cases per 1m population, according to worldometer we rank 21st in Europe.

@ComicePear

But today, we have recorded the most new cases in Europe!

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Hercwasonaroll Tue 06-Oct-20 18:24:59

Why are you afraid to leave your house?

Are you similarly worried about other winter viruses?

Missandra Tue 06-Oct-20 18:25:04

Why are you afraid to leave your house? Are you clinically vulnerable?

bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:26:56

secretllama

Herd immunity is not a bad thing.

@secretllama

If you’re not vulnerable! But what about those that are!!

The government may as well just change hands face space to “May the strongest immune system win”

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bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:27:52

Missandra

Why are you afraid to leave your house? Are you clinically vulnerable?

@Missandra

Yes I am. I have asthma. I’m also classes as obese as my BMI is over 30! (I know that’s my own fault)

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BamboozledandBefuddled Tue 06-Oct-20 18:27:53

FreshFreesias

Because people are fed up that their lives are being destroyed for a virus that kills vanishingly few.
Do the dreadful side effects of lockdown not bother you at all, OP?

This says it all.

Sharpandshineyteeth Tue 06-Oct-20 18:28:59

Because hardly anyone is dying from it. More people are dying of flu. We aren’t making any adjustments for flu.

Spicegirls Tue 06-Oct-20 18:29:22

*Because people are fed up that their lives are being destroyed for a virus that kills vanishingly few.
Do the dreadful side effects of lockdown not bother you at all, OP?*

This, sorry.

secretllama Tue 06-Oct-20 18:30:16

@bootsandcats08
The whole point biologically is it protects the vulnerable by building up immunity in those who will not succumb to the disease. Thus protecting the "herd". Its why anti vaxxers are frowned upon, as healthy people need vaccines to protect those who are not table to take the vaccine.

bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:30:51

Sharpandshineyteeth

Because hardly anyone is dying from it. More people are dying of flu. We aren’t making any adjustments for flu.

@Sharpandshineyteeth

The deaths have been low because the cases were low!!!

Of course the deaths are going to rise again now!!

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Aragog Tue 06-Oct-20 18:31:27

In March the government said they'd have one chance at lockdown. Even then they knew that they wouldn't be able to get a second one through - the economy couldn't cope with it and people wouldn't comply in such high numbers.

whoopma Tue 06-Oct-20 18:32:45

Do more as in a national lockdown? I'm not sure the majority want that.

bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:33:43

Aragog

In March the government said they'd have one chance at lockdown. Even then they knew that they wouldn't be able to get a second one through - the economy couldn't cope with it and people wouldn't comply in such high numbers.

@Aragog

So we’re just supposed to accept this now then? Take our chances?

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BamboozledandBefuddled Tue 06-Oct-20 18:34:05

Deaths happen every day. You don't screw everyone's life up because of them, while increasing deaths from other causes at the same time. Covid is NOT the only death that matters.

Jrobhatch29 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:34:28

"In Europe today over 900 people have died of Covid?"

It seems a high number and it is but in context there are 740 million people in europe

BamboozledandBefuddled Tue 06-Oct-20 18:36:06

So we’re just supposed to accept this now then? Take our chances?

Putting it bluntly, yes. It's called 'living' and some of us would like to get on with it.

bootsandcats08 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:37:22

BamboozledandBefuddled

*So we’re just supposed to accept this now then? Take our chances?*

Putting it bluntly, yes. It's called 'living' and some of us would like to get on with it.

@BamboozledandBefuddled

I’m guessing you’re low risk.

What about those of us are vulnerable or extremely vulnerable?

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Aragog Tue 06-Oct-20 18:37:47

As someone who is clinically vulnerable of course it worries me. I protect myself from flu with an annual vaccine but can't from Covid.

However, the government thinks its safe for me to be at school every day teaching hundreds of little children with no SDing and no protect U.K. .

So I guess in many ways right now I am thinking that yes, I probably am expected just get on with it.

I also have a 18y Dd who has gone off to university who I refuse to bar from my home, regardless of any rules they decide to implement.

A two week lockdown will do nothing too. Too little and too late for that.

I'm working on the bass that I am more likely than not to get it at some point, especially with my job. I just have to hope that it's a mild case or, possibly more the case, that the hospitals and doctors know a lot more these days in how to treat it.

sirfredfredgeorge Tue 06-Oct-20 18:37:54

I’m also classes as obese as my BMI is over 30! (I know that’s my own fault)

The reality is, you're also at risk from staying in getting less and less fit, potentially more obsese, and obviously the non-clinically vulnerable are more at risk from losing exercise and putting on weight as well as other disorders that lockdown exasperates.

There needs to be balance to health, even before you get to economic benefits that are of course health, given how inextricably they're linked with poverty destroying health.

bumblingbovine49 Tue 06-Oct-20 18:39:21

Sharpandshineyteeth

Because hardly anyone is dying from it. More people are dying of flu. We aren’t making any adjustments for flu.

FFS. Please could people stop spouting this rubbish. The flu numbers are 'estimated,' because it is not a notifiable disease except in the very young. If you compare actual measured deaths from flu with Covid , Covid is much higher Even if you compare Covid deaths with estimated flu deaths, only the top bans if those estimates come close to actual recorded Covid deaths

I don't actually agree with the op about lockdown again but I am pretty fed up of reading this patently false 'fact' that is constantly quoted

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