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Fosler Mon 29-Jun-20 20:54:14

I'm on the fence about this virus, always was. I've observed all the guidelines but being front line, as is my daughter, we have been, thankfully fine. I'm on the fence because I question everything. I don't automatically accept what I'm told. So, I would urge you to listen to this:

https://youtu.be/gFeFkmDnU8Y

Add to this the fact that us 1950's women were robbed of our pensions, (approx £48,000 in my case) and, no, I was never warned. I have been robbed of money I earned and paid tax on as well as money contributed by my various employers. I now have to work until I drop and be taxed on my earnings, again!
Either I am deemed fit and well enough to work at almost 67 or I am considered vulnerable.
You couldn't make it up!

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Duckfinger Mon 29-Jun-20 20:58:36

Conspiracy theory.
I watched about 1 minute. Clearly a nut case.

Hugglespuffed Mon 29-Jun-20 21:33:36

You work on the front line and you believe this stuff? Just curious really. I think it is a load of rubbish to be honest.

lousleftkneelies Mon 29-Jun-20 21:44:42

This person has no evidence to back these claims up other than the stupidity of releasing infections patients into care homes.

Haffiana Mon 29-Jun-20 22:27:30

I'm on the fence because I question everything. I don't automatically accept what I'm told.

Nah, love, you are deluded. You believe any old bollocks that comes your way.

JudithGrimesHat Mon 29-Jun-20 22:56:31

Can you give a brief summary op?

Realitea Tue 30-Jun-20 00:13:44

Oh not him again!

vera99 Tue 30-Jun-20 00:17:54

Dr Shitman pops up again..I suppose he wants something to do. You Tube should tell him to fuck off and rant to the telly alone.

CalmYoBadSelf Tue 30-Jun-20 00:41:44

What a load of rubbish! There's a danger of being too open minded which is falling for shite like this

I am in the same age group as you and don't know how you can claim you weren't warned about the pension date changes as I was and remember it being on TV news, etc

MiniTheMinx Tue 30-Jun-20 00:59:11

You are deemed fit and well enough to work until you no longer can, and then you are considered a liability. You are either an input or an output. Useful or useless, worthy or unworthy. A worker or a useless eater. Eugenics has been adopted by left and right for moral and for economic reasons. Where its logic serves the logic of capital accumulation it leads to all kinds of horror.

Whilst I think hes correct in stating that hospital discharge to care homes of covid positive patients happened because hospitals were given guidance to do so, I do not believe their is some deep dark agenda. I believe the state responsible for these deaths, and I believe its manslaughter not genocide.

Whilst I agree that the liverpool care pathway and subsequent European wide guidance may free up hospital beds, I do not think that there is some worldwide agenda to actively kill old people. Yes euthanasia happens, and its happened for years without it being legally sanctioned, but its NOT legal!

I do not believe that there is any logic, joined up thinking, or deep dark agenda.

It is not Bojo and pals who make decisions, sure, we have the state,...ie the civil service, and the state that acts in it's own interest, its whole reason for being is to ensure the maintenance of the capitalist system without which the state has no reason to exist. But again, it's not made up of rational actors of give mind, with joined up thinking and a dark agenda to kill the old.

The logic is, we need people to produce, people to consume. if only the producers could consume everything they produce then we wouldn't need the "useless eaters"
and this is where capitalism and the state part ways, capitalism needs them but the state must underwrite their existence. So, no logic, and little sense in killing off old people. And even if Bill Gates and a few chums thought otherwise, (and maybe he does) he'd be digging his own grave (in economic terms)

MiniTheMinx Tue 30-Jun-20 01:01:51

Should say 'hive mind' bloody auto correct.

TheClaws Tue 30-Jun-20 07:23:07

Please use the mind you were given. (Also stop spreading bollocks conspiracy theories - it helps exactly no-one.)

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