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How many people under 40 have died?

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CreamteainCornwall Sat 27-Jun-20 13:27:12

I can’t find the figure anywhere, I know it’s low.

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Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 13:31:06

Here you go this was in May though but hasn’t gone up that much, the website doesn’t seem to be working at the moment

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 13:32:13

It’s probably just over 200 now.

Cornettoninja Sat 27-Jun-20 13:35:36

@alex50 is that the NHS England statistics site (it’s a very recognisable spreadsheet!)? If it is I think it’s important to note that’s only English hospital deaths.

I agree it’s an accurate and useful guide to total U.K. numbers though.

ohthegoats Sat 27-Jun-20 13:36:10

How many people under 40 are likely to have ongoing issues post infection, issues that will affect quality of life or be life limiting?

That's far more interesting/useful.

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 13:38:44

@Cornettoninja yes it is. Do you know the figure for the whole of the UK for under 40?

Jrobhatch29 Sat 27-Jun-20 13:39:27

Not what she asked though.

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 13:41:56

@ohthegoats the poster didn’t ask that. I doubt on going health issues is very high in the under 40’s as most have none to mild symptoms, I think about 500 in England have been hospitalised.

Cornettoninja Sat 27-Jun-20 13:52:09

Unfortunately I don’t alex50, I more of a collector of other people’s links rather than having any particularly talented google-fu skills myself grin

I’d be interested to know too though.

QuornHub Sat 27-Jun-20 13:59:55

I can't answer your question OP but my friend, who was 38 and had two DC under five and no underlying health conditions, died after 6 weeks on a ventilator.

amicissimma Sat 27-Jun-20 14:16:44

By comparison in the UK in the 113 days between 5 March and 27 June 2008, about 4564 people aged 1-39 died. In the same period of 2018, it was 4054. From ONS tables.

Years picked at random. Figures taken from tables showing each year group so may not be 100% accurate if I went cross-eyed adding up. I've left out under ones because they have a much higher death rate.

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 14:20:56

@Quornhub i’m sorry to hear about your friend and her family, she would’ve been one of the 35 people under 40 who died in England who had no underlying health issues, which about 15 were women so very unlucky.

QuornHub Sat 27-Jun-20 14:26:49

@Alex50 it was a man, I should've said.

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 14:53:41

Very sad, every person I know who has been very ill have been men. My daughter’s best friends Dad nearly died at 36, luckily he made it through but is was 50/50 at one point.

Kitcat122 Sat 27-Jun-20 15:01:49

@Alex50 thousands of people with "mild" Coronavirus have on-going symptoms many under 40. It has just not been reported much yet.

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 15:45:33

How do you know if it’s thousands without a report or any data?

Itwasnoaccident9786756453 Sat 27-Jun-20 15:57:25

I doubt on going health issues is very high in the under 40’s as most have none to mild symptoms, I think about 500 in England have been hospitalised.

You cannot have failed to come across the many ICU consultants warning people that this is not a mild illness for a significant proportion of people and not to think of it in that way. You simply can't have been under a rock this whole time. I find your post deeply disturbing, arrogant and disingenuous.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz Sat 27-Jun-20 16:00:28

The Government find it easier confining everyone including children, who don't appear to suffer/carry in any significant way, rather than being frank with those over 50 and saying to (their core voters!) Stay in.

Keep the younger people out and about in society to keep the economy going. Protect the vulnerable and ones who are known to suffer worse from Covid19.

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 16:02:14

What is a significant number? Is it people that have been very ill even if you haven’t been to hospital, does it include very mild, symptomatic symptoms? Does is effect a certain age, gender the same as death. Please can you give me some back up data on this? A significant number means nothing to be able to evaluate the risks?

Alex50 Sat 27-Jun-20 16:06:43

@Itwasnoaccident9786756453 and I find your post patronising. Without data and facts a significant number is not enough to go on i’m afraid. I know plenty of people who have had it mildly and they are not walking round with any on going health issues, they had the virus end of March.

Bluntness100 Sat 27-Jun-20 16:09:26

I can’t recall the exact numbers but under 65 and with no underlying health conditions I think is about 200 people op. It’s very very low. Those people were thought to have a very high viral dose. So basically with a number of peoooe who all had it for an extended period of time Ie several hours.

Jrobhatch29 Sat 27-Jun-20 16:10:43

ICU consultants unfornately see the sickest of the sick patients and this is not a fair representation of covid in the general population.
It is true that the clinical definiton of mild means not requiring hospital. This is not unique to covid though and applies to other illnesses including walking pnemonia. Of course there will be many people who feel really unwell but manage at home. It is also becoming clear though that many people experience true mild/minor symptoms. There are many reports just on mumsnet showing this. I had a bad throat last week and my NHS nurse friend told me to get a test as many colleagues have testef positive with just a bad throat or a headache. Different studies have also shown that between 40 and 80% of people have no symptoms at all.
However the OP was specificially asking about deaths in under 40s, not long term illness.

Kazzyhoward Sat 27-Jun-20 16:12:36

But how many would have died or suffered long term damage if we hadn't locked down? Its a measure of success of the lock down that Covid wasn't rampaging through communities in the same way it had gone through hospitals and care homes. The lockdown didn't really affect hospitals and care homes - it affected the wider community, which is where cases fell sharply.

Bluntness100 Sat 27-Jun-20 16:24:54

We locked down to protect the NHS. So that anyone who needed treatment got it. Which was successful.

goingoverground Sat 27-Jun-20 16:58:19

Here's some data from the ZoeApp for you, @Alex50. 1 in 10 people have symptoms that last over 3 weeks and approx 200k app users have had symptoms that last months, some developing complications such as heart damage after a mild infection. These are people who had mild symptoms, not those who were seriously ill and have long term damage.

covid19.joinzoe.com/post/covid-long-term

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/weird-hell-professor-advent-calendar-covid-19-symptoms-paul-garner

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