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Forget beaches and protests - the second wave may come from..... pets?

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Butterer Sat 20-Jun-20 01:20:37

"The team from University College London say new outbreaks could occur in areas where coronavirus had previously been eradicated if it becomes more common among animals in close proximity to people – such as pet cats or dogs as well as livestock. Writing in The Lancet Microbe, they called for further studies to be conducted into which animals are vulnerable to infection and for regular testing to then be carried out on those species posing the greatest risk of passing the virus on to humans."

metro.co.uk/2020/06/19/pet-cats-dogs-give-us-coronavirus-second-wave-12874490/

confused <- worried, not confused.

Happily I have an indoor cat so no changes needed in my house - I think if she was outdoor I'd be seriously considering keeping her in.

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Bol87 Sat 20-Jun-20 07:08:23

I thought cats could get it from us but couldn’t pass it back to humans?

The obvious thing here surely is to just not stroke other peoples pets! I’m a huge cat lover & through life seek out cats to fuss on the street but since Covid, I haven’t. As I assume droplets could land on their fur & survive for a while! So I’ve just stuck to stroking mine..

Bol87 Sat 20-Jun-20 07:11:54

We think my mums cat has had Covid. He was really poorly at the start of February with a fever, shakes, lost his meow, wouldn’t eat.. the vets ran lots of tests & was baffled as to what was wrong. It took him 3 weeks to recover! The vet rang my parents in April when it was realised cats could catch it & said he’d had all the symptoms they’ve seen in cats so far! 😱 Thankfully, he is now perfectly fine!

musicposy Sat 20-Jun-20 08:37:08

My 3 dogs have had it, I’m absolutely certain. I had it back in March. We have three old dogs (8, 10 and 12), one of whom cannot be parted from me or she stops eating and starts walking on three legs (an old cruciate ligament injury). The other two are rescues with traumatic pasts and need to know they are here permanently.

We therefore decided that taking them elsewhere at this stage for possibly weeks was more unkind than letting them take their chances with the virus. They were in the bedroom with me for the weeks I lay there coughing and feverish. If I’d shut attached dog out she’d have quickly declined mentally. She knew I was ill and was pinning herself to me.

All three dogs developed a cough and we went through a week where they all started being sick, to the point that DH covered the floor with washable rugs. They were off colour for two weeks and then all three were back to normal. No lasting effects on any of them that I can see. Unlike me who still has fatigue and various symptoms 14 weeks on!

I don’t know if they could have passed it to anyone as we isolated for weeks and weeks and did not take them out for exercise when we were all ill. We did have a quick chat to the vet when they all started coughing and she said they were hearing a few similar stories though more common in cats.

TheGriffle Sat 20-Jun-20 08:39:39

It’s information like this that leads to people dumping their pets through fear.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine Sat 20-Jun-20 08:41:30

are people really dumping their pets though?

UmbrellaHat Sat 20-Jun-20 08:44:29

The Gvt would never have the guts to tell people to cull their pets -imagine the protests. Suddenly ' protecting the NHS' would be conveniently forgotten

PinkSparklyPussyCat Sat 20-Jun-20 08:53:35

Great, more ammunition for the animal haters.

If the government ordered a cull of pets do you really think anyone would comply? I'd go to prison before I'd euthanise my cat!

Walkaround Sat 20-Jun-20 11:02:43

If the virus can mutate so that it can infect humans and spread via human to human contact, then I guess there is nothing to stop it mutating to become a specialist cat or dog virus that spreads easily between cats and dogs. Then you have to hope it isn’t as serious for cats and dogs as it is for some humans, or there may be a lot of expensive vet bills until an animal vaccine is developed. I doubt the risk of animals being the vector for spreading the human virus to other humans is that huge, unless people are running petting zoos! Who knows what can happen with mutations, though - it’s humans’ close proximity with other animals that started all this in the first place.

ragged Sat 20-Jun-20 11:55:27

Some seriously unrealistic scenarios being promoted.

musicposy Sat 20-Jun-20 14:34:01

It’s information like this that leads to people dumping their pets through fear.

Why would people dump their pets? All information I’ve read is that it’s mild in pets and although it can spread from humans to pets I haven’t seen any evidence that it’s the same the other way round. Even if it was, surely you just don’t let your dog be stroked by other people, or you don’t let other people’s cats in your house.

I think the kind of person who dumps their pet probably doesn’t need much excuse to be honest.

Shinesweetfreedom Sat 20-Jun-20 14:37:04

I thought three abattoirs in this country and one in Germany had been closed because a considerable number of humans had contracted the virus

StrawberryJam200 Sat 20-Jun-20 14:39:34

The meat processing plants are excellent spreading ground human to human, no suggestion of people catching it from the carcasses!

ThePollutedShadesOfPemberley Sat 20-Jun-20 14:41:54

musicposy

*It’s information like this that leads to people dumping their pets through fear.*

Why would people dump their pets? All information I’ve read is that it’s mild in pets and although it can spread from humans to pets I haven’t seen any evidence that it’s the same the other way round. Even if it was, surely you just don’t let your dog be stroked by other people, or you don’t let other people’s cats in your house.

I think the kind of person who dumps their pet probably doesn’t need much excuse to be honest.

People dump pets for the flimsiest of reasons. Work at the vet and be part of the Christmas euthanasia clearout !

Talking about this is going to lead to pets being chucked out. An awful lot of animals are owned by thick people.

WhoWants2Know Sat 20-Jun-20 14:42:11

Locally, people started dumping their pets from the beginning of lockdown. In theory we suspected it was done by people who couldn't get pet food during the panic buying, or lost their jobs or became too ill to walk them. But the dog wardens were rushed off their feet.

Newjez Sat 20-Jun-20 14:45:27

I was quite worried about them culling all the mink in Holland. I'm guessing if it can get into mink, it can get into squirrels, rats, mice etc. Birds? Then it would be everywhere.

Scary thought.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine Sat 20-Jun-20 14:51:45

if it came from bats surely that could spread to other animals from bats anyway?

Stircrazyschoolmum Sat 20-Jun-20 18:30:06

Hmmm. This feels highly unlikely but will be a great excuse for those wanting to dump lockdown puppies when they go back to work... angry

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