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There's been around 40 deaths of under 45 year olds with no underlying health conditions.

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mywayhighway Sun 14-Jun-20 08:52:19

I'm always amazed how so many people on MN know someone (or often 2) under 45 who've died from Coronavirus with no underlying health conditions.

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mywayhighway Sun 14-Jun-20 08:54:10

When the numbers in that category are so small.

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StealthPolarBear Sun 14-Jun-20 08:57:29

I always marvel at the people who know the top x richest or cleverest people in the country too.

Jrobhatch29 Sun 14-Jun-20 08:58:54

Ive just posted the same thing on another thread. People claiming to know several of the young people without conditions that have died! I think there is a difference between knowing of them, and actually knowing them

Angelonia Sun 14-Jun-20 08:59:26

Have you got a link OP?

flibbertmygibbert Sun 14-Jun-20 09:00:23

Indeed. But I have asthma. Which would count as an underlying heath condition. My friends however would know me as the fit and healthy person I am and absolutely assume I have no underlying heath conditions. So I do died of Covid they would be rather shocked.

flibbertmygibbert Sun 14-Jun-20 09:00:41

...if I!

Jrobhatch29 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:03:00

medium.com/wintoncentre/what-have-been-the-fatal-risks-of-covid-particularly-to-children-and-younger-adults-a5cbf7060c49
Here is a link

Orangeblossom78 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:03:51

They can have conditions undiagnosed as well. I agree there seems to be a high number of people knowing victims considering the actual figures

Also high amount of account from the BBC of people treating young, fit and healthy people (albeit not dead of course)

Stuckforthefourthtime Sun 14-Jun-20 09:06:11

Totally agree. While I do believe that because of clusters of health issues, risk issues, jobs etc, some people will, sadly, know a number of covid deaths... But the overall death rate is 1 in 2000, and so many posters claimed to have personally know 2, 3, or 6 or more, including mothers of young children, healthy young runners etc...

Snagscardies Sun 14-Jun-20 09:06:22

I agree, what actually counts as an underlying condition, someone who's BMI is over 25, someone who used an inhaler as a child? Someone who has asthma now but has never been hospitalized. It's easy to make out someone has a underlying condition, much more palatable to announce this.

Waxonwaxoff0 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:07:41

I wonder this too. There's an unusual amount of people on MN who know someone young, fit and healthy who has died from this. The people who I know have died of it were all in their 70s and 80s.

My 51 year old mum has had it and recovered fine.

AlecTrevelyan006 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:09:31

This is why schools should reopen in full straight away and the 2m rule should be relaxed to 1m.

We have destroyed the economy and ruined the education of millions of children because of a disease that mainly effects the over 60s. It is madness.

Stuckforthefourthtime Sun 14-Jun-20 09:12:06

@Snagscardies it's true, but a lot of these deaths were people already in hospitals (still tremendously sad), and even ignoring whether or not the younger people had pre-existing conditions, the rate is extremely low for under 45 and even more for children.

...across 7 countries up to 19th May, there had been 44 Covid deaths recorded out of over 137 million 0–19 year-olds, a rate of less than 1 in 3 million, while this same group suffered over 1000 deaths from accidents over this same period.

PatriciaHolm Sun 14-Jun-20 09:12:35

The total deaths in the under 45s, regardless of health conditions, is under 500.

user1471439240 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:17:29

Nhs data - click on tab 3 - hospital deaths only.
Care home deaths will be naturally older and more underlying conditions too.
Tab 2 - 734 Women under 60 have died with or without underlying conditions.
www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-10-June-2020-weekly-tables.xlsx

Cornettoninja Sun 14-Jun-20 09:20:11

I think there’s a difference in what people are interpreting as young. Yes the deaths in under 45’s are low but you don’t suddenly become elderly at 46.

Obviously it’s different when people are quoting an exact age but I’m sure there are many who see people over 45 as ‘young’.

mywayhighway Sun 14-Jun-20 09:21:18

I was surprised when I spoke to someone yesterday who had no idea that the majority of deaths were in the elderly. He was genuinely shocked. It's very worrying.

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Barbie222 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:23:28

I think the term "underlying health conditions" is a bit othering. Anyone use an inhaler? Over 28 BMI? Otherwise living your best life? The term is used as a way to minimise the data.

Pixxie7 Sun 14-Jun-20 09:25:13

So it’s ok for anyone over 60 to die as a result of Covid? If we hadn’t shut down would the number of deaths under 45 be higher, we really don’t know?

maddiemookins16mum Sun 14-Jun-20 09:28:22

It’s MN, everyone knows someone/something none of the rest of us do (in their imaginations).
Plus, don’t forget they all earn over 100K a year.

MonkeyToesOfDoom Sun 14-Jun-20 09:30:57

I love these threads...

"Kids and people under 45 don't die so open everything up and get kids back to school"
Meanwhile people in old folks home were dropping dead at increased rates.
But hey, screw them, they're old and dont matter. Yes they might be someone's mum, grandma, sister, aunt, dad etc... But they've had their lives, let em die.

Because that's exactly what people are saying. There little risk to kids and healthy people, so let it spread... Even though those kids and healthy people will pass it to elderly and unhealthy people..

It's like cleansing the population, people are eager to do it too. Shocking really.

Derbygerbil Sun 14-Jun-20 09:32:22

But the overall death rate is 1 in 2000

Overall deaths to date is 1 in 2000... Death rate from Covid is quite a lot higher, but I’m being pedantic.... I’m always surprised at how many people are this or that in threads. On a thread a while back concerning people in the 1% income, half the posters seemed to be comfortably within it!

SandieCheeks Sun 14-Jun-20 09:32:52

Many people would consider anyone under 60 to be fairly "young" (lots of people in their 50s have school age children!) and underlying conditions are pretty broad.
If you know someone in their late 40s or 50s who is a bit overweight, has asthma or diabetes or high blood pressure, but works in a physical job, goes running, has young kids, plays on a 5 a side team - you might well think of them as young and healthy.

Angelonia Sun 14-Jun-20 09:34:25

Barbie22 but the number of deaths in under 45s is still very low (under 500 in total) even if you include all those with underlying health conditions.

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