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If Teachers are worried about going back to school, employ me as a teacher

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DappledGreenLeaves Tue 09-Jun-20 13:10:08

I do understand that Teachers don't want to go back to school, these are worrying times, however our children deserve an education.

I realise teaching is very difficult

I'm not trained as a teacher

I do have a degree, and have worked in business and other fields

I'll train as a fast track temporary teacher, and teachers don't need to go back.

Employ a new batch of "Fast Track Teachers" and get children back into schools

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HeyAllYouCoolCatsNKittens Tue 09-Jun-20 13:15:27

Erm no, as you say, children deserve an education. It's not going to be much of an education with "pretend" teachers is it?

Napqueen1234 Tue 09-Jun-20 13:17:24

@HeyAllYouCoolCatsNKittens better than what their currently getting- an attempt by parents who often have multiple children and are still trying to work at the same time. People with life experience make excellent teachers and training schemes like teach first have proven how quickly people can be trained up to teach.

Hibbetyhob Tue 09-Jun-20 13:18:48

Read the government guidance re: wider opening of schools.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-implementing-protective-measures-in-education-and-childcare-settings/coronavirus-covid-19-implementing-protective-measures-in-education-and-childcare-settings

Then please understand that it is not teachers stopping more children coming back to school, but the guidance which asks for no more than 15 children in a class group, yr r, 1 & 6 and keyworker/vulnerable children only and explicitly rules out returning pupils on a rota / part-time system.

It is NOT that teachers don't want to go back to school.

Farontothemaddingcrowd Tue 09-Jun-20 13:19:46

I’m a teacher and I’m quite happy to go back to school. I’m not sure how you would fare teaching A Level Maths or Literature to Year 12 with no training either?

HeyAllYouCoolCatsNKittens Tue 09-Jun-20 13:23:29

@Napqueen1234 I work from home with kids and have a degree. You are deluded to think you could just go and teach kids the national curriculum having no teaching experience.

Grasspigeons Tue 09-Jun-20 13:23:42

In the school I work in all the teachers are teaching and some of the TA's are teaching too

You could be on the TA salary if you like what with not being a teacher and having no experience? its a grade 3 for 25 hours a week, term time only - ends up around 12-13k. you might not get the job if there are more suitably qualified applicants with experience.

So part one of the interview -

you have 15 children in your bubble. one child is blind, one child has ADHD and another child has wet themselves. There is also a child who is working at a year 5 level and says they are bored, and another on the nursery curriculum still and one doesn't speak English. There are two children being disruptive. Your topic is shape.

Can you talk me through the purpose of safeguarding and how it relates to your role?

CarrieBlue Tue 09-Jun-20 13:27:09

I don’t want my child taught by someone with no experience, minimal ‘training’ and no real desire to be a teacher. Thanks for the offer though.

cakeandcustard Tue 09-Jun-20 13:28:22

Please, please train as a teacher, let us know how you are getting on in a few years time...

As a fully trained teacher with 15 years experience I am dying to get back into my classroom, however my school is shut for safety reasons.

For the very last time - it is not teachers that created this mess, we are for the most part highly qualified, conscientious and hard working and are trying to deal with the current crisis as best as we can along with everybody else.

Michelleoftheresistance Tue 09-Jun-20 13:29:06

I'm fairly sure that if you were employed, and got up to speed with the policies, the realities, the government guidance and what teaching actually involves, you'd very quickly have a better understanding of why we're in this grotty situation and it isn't for lack of 'can do' people and keenness.

There isn't a magic answer. It is shit. Pandemics are utter bastards and there aren't any winners.

Myothercarisalsoshit Tue 09-Jun-20 13:29:35

Ha Ha! Best one yet!

JustSew Tue 09-Jun-20 13:30:00

DS is a maths teacher and would happily go back to a normal full timetable. Unfortunately what the government guidelines permit is a million miles from that. He goes back next week to reach a group of 15 year 12s. They will get two half days a week each of maths, english and science, taught in halls and double classrooms. He can only teach one group so he's not mixing with multiple groups. The rest of the time he will still be teaching but from home.
Utterly frustrating for him and most other teachers.

Oh, and his maths degree didn't make him a teacher he had to do another year's training plus a year's probation.

StaffAssociationRepresentative Tue 09-Jun-20 13:32:45

What do you mean @DappledGreenLeaves teachers don't want to go back to school? Yes we do. I really missing my GCSE and A level students. I would happily go back tomorrow.

Though having a degree is part of the entry requirements it does not necessarily follow that all people with degrees make it as teachers.

User8008135 Tue 09-Jun-20 13:34:18

All the teachers i know are back at school teaching keyworkers dc or early years. Their dc are in school or nursery and my teacher friends want other kids to go back so their dc have normality too. But the schools aren't set up for bubbles and theirs big drives from parents to follow guidance and social distancing.

StaffAssociationRepresentative Tue 09-Jun-20 13:35:41

I have a degree, worked in industry, trained as a teacher and I have covered a load of science lessons. I wouldn't mind having a go as a Doctor - there is another shortage

User8008135 Tue 09-Jun-20 13:36:11

Though having a degree is part of the entry requirements it does not necessarily follow that all people with degrees make it as teachers.

I have a degree plus more, no way I'd be a good teacher. A few lectures a year is my limit! To be a good teacher, you really need certain qualities- patience being top!

eggofmantumbi Tue 09-Jun-20 13:36:46

I don't know if I should laugh, cry for scream

RedRum27 Tue 09-Jun-20 13:37:31

@DappledGreenLeaves OP I am happy about going back to school! The overwhelming majority want to get back and teach their kids. Don’t tar everyone with the same brush please - that’s just unfair. And good look becoming a teacher...let us know how you get on!

LaceCurtains Tue 09-Jun-20 13:43:18

The vast majority here do want to go back and TBH, I don't think we're far away from those that don't (without a shielding letter) being told it will be unauthorised unpaid leave. We've already had that instruction from our LA, although have actually done it yet, as we only have a handful (from 140) telling us they can't be in school at all. Trouble is, some of those teachers and other staff will then get signed off with anxiety.

Most of our teachers are doing at least some time in school now, the small numbers of students are mostly down to jumping through the government hoops, not missing or unwilling teachers.

Re training, if you have a degree and want to teach, it's only a 9mth course anyway and can be done on the job. Go for it.

Redolent Tue 09-Jun-20 13:45:28

CarrieBlue

I don’t want my child taught by someone with no experience, minimal ‘training’ and no real desire to be a teacher. Thanks for the offer though.

Sounds like a lot of newly qualified teachers to be honest.

Laniakea Tue 09-Jun-20 13:47:56

I’m sure there are loads of young healthy enthusiastic new graduates who have been denied access to training schemes this year & could be put to good work. Vulnerable teachers could supervise from home.

SallyLovesCheese Tue 09-Jun-20 13:52:17

www.teachfirst.org.uk/training-programme

Five weeks initial training then straight into the classroom. Do it, OP, if you're that keen.

DoingMyOwnThing Tue 09-Jun-20 13:52:50

I wish that that people like you OP could be employed to provide a form of mixed childcare/teaching over the summer holidays. The children of people working (in a workplace) and cannot get childcare/activities clubs etc for their children to attend whilst working could go.

To people who say no chidren need real education I would say they haven't had that since March and won't get it until at least Sept or later if teachers/unions don't feel totally safe by then! This would be a good start - there must be lots of fit, healthy under 45's with degrees that could provide some teaching and some childcare using the empty school premises.

DareDevil223 Tue 09-Jun-20 13:53:58

My son's going in for four days next week but if you'd like to take his A level maths class I'm sure he;'d be grateful.

Not quite sure why I'm bothering to rise to this goady load of old bollocks...

Napqueen1234 Tue 09-Jun-20 14:00:23

@HeyAllYouCoolCatsNKittens see @SallyLovesCheese link. 5 weeks and your student facing. I’m a qualified nurse and went to teaching overnight with no experience (in HEA). It can be done!

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