Breaking 5 mile limit? Wales.

[YellowEllis]

Seen an article in iNews (don't know how to do clicky link but copy and pasted link at bottom)

5 mile limit likely to be extended well into July. Snippet says this is to prevent the scenes we've seen on English beaches.

Mid July will mark 5 months since my 1 year old son has seen anyone other than me and his dad. He has no memory of anyone other than us. He has family in Wales, 30 miles away and 60 miles away. We will not go to beaches. We will not stop for fuel away from our local area. We will bring our own food.

Is this that bad? Our families miss him so much.

inews.co.uk/news/uk/wales-shut-tourists-summer-first-minister-mark-drakeford-434873

[YellowEllis]

Sorry. We are also in Wales. In case that wasn't clear.

[bulletjournalbilly]

Just go FFS!

[Sicktaethebackyeeth]

Just go unless you were one of the ones demonising Cummings

[YellowEllis]

Feel awful, have adhered to every rule this far. It's just so hard to be kept apart from family to prevent tourism, when we aren't guilty of that. Worried about potential issues with police and fines. It's just so hard!

[PanicOnTheStreets85]

Mid July will mark 5 months since my 1 year old son has seen anyone other than me and his dad. He has no memory of anyone other than us.

I wouldn't really worry about your son at this stage. He doesn't need anything other than his mum and dad right now and will have no memories of any of this soon.

But if you feel it's necessary for the sake of the adults then I am not going to judge you.

[YellowEllis]

Is it not fairly important for a babies social development to be around different people?

[Mamimawr]

I haven't seen my family for months either OP but that's the law. How will you explain if you're stopped by the police? Where will you go to the toilet? If you go that far you will have to go into the house. And how do you expect a 1 year old to keep 2 meters away from others?

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

Just go. It’s a recommendation and I’d class family as essential travel! Have a lovely time

[PanicOnTheStreets85]

Not at that age really. When we were taking our boy to baby groups at that age and a bit older he was still just ignoring everyone and just interested in finding new toys to put in his mouth 😳

[Northernsoullover]

People are getting stopped. You might be lucky. You might not be. Can I ask what makes you so special? I live in Wales and the 5 mile limit is utterly shit. We are also doing 'well' on Covid-19 figures (any death is one too many obviously). The majority of us accept the draconian rules even if we aren't happy about them.

[Mamimawr]

"Just go. It’s a recommendation"

It's not. You could be stopped and fined. If you live in a very rural area you can drive a bit further - but not 30 / 60 miles! If we all thought we were above the law then we might as well forget about the restrictions.

[IncrediblySadToo]

It's a shame your family are missing out on this time with him, but don't worry about him, he will be fine with 'just' you two.

I wouldn't go, despite what people have said, it's not just a recommendation. There's a very good reason these laws are in place and it's for everyone's benefit.

No one knows how long it's going to be, but it will come to an end and it will come to an end sooner if people stick to the guidelines/rules/laws.

[ScarfLadysBag]

In Scotland the five-mile limit is for exercise but you can go further if you are visiting family in their garden for example, as long as you don't have to use the toilet. That seems a more sensible compromise as it stops people flocking to beauty spots but doesn't disproportionately punish people living a bit further from family.

[Mamimawr]

In Walea you have to start and finish exercise at home and are only allowed to travel 5 miles to visit people.

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

If you’ve been sticking to lockdown you won’t have the disease and can’t spread it.

[OrDis]

I feel very similarly OP. I’m currently pregnant and not sure how much longer DH and I can go on without seeing our families. It’s a real dilemma. We have been sticking to the rules (both sets of parents live around 40 miles away but in opposite directions). I understand them and want to follow them but it’s now starting to affect both of our mental health. We have very few friends close to where we live. This should be a joyus time for us getting ready for our first born, and it just isnt. I can’t go on not seeing family forever.

[OrDis]

I think they ought to provide us with at least an outline of when they hope to ease the five mile rile (R rate obviously permitting). It would make it much easier to cope, it’s the never knowing when it will likely end that makes it so hard

[Heartofglass12345]

Babies don't care about socialising at that age lol, they generally play on their own until they are about 2, some kids even older. It's up to you, but what would you say if you got stopped by the police? They are stopping a lot of people near me

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

R rate is a best guess and now prevalence is so low it’s disproportionately impacted by small increases. Our economy is being destroyed, our children’s education and childhood damaged, our basic freedoms curtailed, we are actually debating whether a little child and their parents should be able to see each other for the first time in months. Mark Drakeford has no plan to get us out of this. He’s announced Wales will be sure for the summer and had no intention of letting us beyond 5 miles for who knows how long. Enough! Just go. Have a lovely time and if you get stopped apologise and pay the fine.

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

Sure? Shut

[CheshireCats]

If you are 30 miles apart, can you meet in the middle, so each only drive 15 miles. Drakeford has acknowledged that some people have to drive 15 miles to a supermarket, so they can continue to do this.

[TheHarryFormerlyKnownAsPrince]

No, mamimawr, you can travel to exercise within the five miles. I’ve read the guidelines carefully.

[Mamimawr]

Sorry, @TheHarryFormerlyKnownAsPrince you're right. It's just cycling that has to start and finish at home. My mistake.

[Worriedmum999]

I would go, as long as you are 100% sure there is no way you could spread the virus. Surely police aren’t just stopping people willy-nilly. They must be focused on the beaches and tourist areas. Just use the B roads.

[Northernsoullover]

Yes people are being stopped 'willy-nilly'. You saying that is like a massive 'fuck you' to the rest of us who can't visit family further afield. We have low case numbers and deaths in Wales and I'm not one of these who generally gets worked up about passing someone on the street etc. Its not one rule for some and to hell with the rest of us FFS
Just stay home a bit longer OP. I'm sure it would be far more disappointing to be stopped en route than accepting a longer wait.