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Why aren't there angry posts about Tim Matthews admitting he made up Dominic Cummings sighting?

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 31/05/2020 08:58

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8372911/Boris-puts-Dominic-Cummings-chance-one-witness-admits-sighting-aide.html

Tim Matthews has admitted he made up a sighting of Dominic Cummings at Barnard Castle for a joke. It wasn't a very funny joke. I haven't heard anyone laughing about and why has it taken until now to admit it was a lie?

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tabulahrasa · 31/05/2020 09:04

Because they’re condemning Cummings on what he said himself?

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Kittenlicker · 31/05/2020 09:04

There’s one now.

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slipperywhensparticus · 31/05/2020 09:06

But he admitted he was there?

I cant get stressed about any of this

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HeddaGarbled · 31/05/2020 09:06

The Mail are clearly running a campaign to discredit all the Cummings witnesses which makes me suspicious of the accuracy of their reporting.

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Everytimeref · 31/05/2020 09:07

You obviously haven't read the article, it not Tim Matthews who its claimed "made it up" and the claim he broke the rules is also false.

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BiggerBoat1 · 31/05/2020 09:09

A. I don't believe a word that is printed in the Daily Mail.

B. I don't care what any witnesses say. My anger is based purely on what Dominic Cummings admitted to in his own statement.

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MinecraftMother · 31/05/2020 09:09

Read the articles first.

Then discuss...

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BiggerBoat1 · 31/05/2020 09:12

I'm not clicking on a Daily Mail link.

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AIMD · 31/05/2020 09:12

Maybe because Tim Matthews isn’t advisor time the prime minister. The level of power someone like Cummings has, and the fact he is working for the government who are putting the lockdown rules in place, does make him breaking/bending (whatever your perception) the rules more controversial.

Also that’s just one element of quite a long rambling story about Cummings movements. It’s not like the whole situation was made up.

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Qasd · 31/05/2020 09:13

But Cummings said he was there in the rose garden statement. Are you saying I should be outraged in someone “lying” about seeing Cummings somewhere Cummings agrees he was and agrees he did interact with the witness!! It’s pretty hard to be outraged when even the guy who is being accused admits he did it!

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Igtg · 31/05/2020 09:14

Well someone saw him and Cummings admitted it anyway.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/05/2020 09:15

I was just looking to see if there was anyone willing to modify any of their previous posts about this!

Deliberate lies
Sheer hipocrysy
Suggestions of a plot by JH
A number of people saying they deliberately pushed stories to get him sacked
Media scrums and lying headlines

Basically it is/was a witch hunt.

Will any poster who swallowed it all whole have a rethink?

Not a wholesale change of opinion about DC but a re think on how much internalise take such media hype.

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Spidey66 · 31/05/2020 09:16

But Cummings has admitted he was there! So whether someone did or did not doctor a running app to put him at Barnard Castle to see him is a moot point surely!

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MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 31/05/2020 09:20

So DC was at Barney, but he was wearing his invisibility cloak so no one saw him, so that's alright, then?

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timetobackout · 31/05/2020 09:21

He made up the story about Cummings being there a second time a week later, which Cummings always denied, not the Barnard Castle trip.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/05/2020 09:22

Some of you still aren't reading it all.

DC said that anyone saying he had returned to Durham was lying. When he returned to London he stayed there.

Posters here were quote gleeful, saying it didn't matter what DC said, what gps style proof he had, why would a stranger lie?

Well the stranger did lie. He deliberately doctored timestamps etc... for a joke!

Not hard to see that some of the furore was made up, hyped, used. Aimed at us, the general public.

Why is it that some who are so good at seeing where BJ throws up a smokescreen are so blind when the smokescreen comes from elsewhere?

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Andante57 · 31/05/2020 09:23

Were Cummings’ wife and little boy in his London house while the mob surrounded it?
It must have been terrifying for them.

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Walkaround · 31/05/2020 09:23

CuriousaboutSamphire - the press behaved the way it always behaves, it didn’t particularly pick on Cummins, it’s equally vile to everyone. Likewise, there are always crackpots who make up false claims at times like this - makes fuck all difference to the obvious truth of the central allegations.

Cummins hanged himself, he didn’t actually need any help to do it. It’s his actual behaviour and statements people are angry about, not the usual crackpots who jump on the bandwagon to get attention.

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icansmellburningleaves · 31/05/2020 09:24

He admitted being at Barnard Castle. He should have been sacked.

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TabbyMumz · 31/05/2020 09:27

Yes, he firmed saying he saw him there on a second trip, ievthst aftercreturning to London, recent back. It wasn't true . This is why we needed to wait for the facts before the Rose Garden interview as quite often people say they have seen people when they havent. It happens a lot in missing persons cases too. There are always "sightings" that turn out to be bogus.

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MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 31/05/2020 09:28

Speaking of doctoring things:

www.wired.co.uk/article/dominic-cummings-blog-pandemic

Now why would anyone do a thing like that?

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Lumene · 31/05/2020 09:29

Because it’s irrelevant.

Dominic Cummings’ own account of his actions is damning in itself.

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FrodoTheDodo · 31/05/2020 09:30

I'm no Cummings fan at all. But i'll just mention here that what has also been spread on SM including MN is that his sister is the director of the track and trace app.

Which is absolutely false and i'm mentioning it because a poor woman who's never even met DC, and the company she works for have been harassed.

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PerkingFaintly · 31/05/2020 09:32

Dominic Cummings’ own account of his actions is damning in itself.

This.

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Earnsomething · 31/05/2020 09:33

If it was made up, how did it turn out to be correct?

Whatever, it's the facts that condemned DC.

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