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Can we just stop with the school/teacher bashing

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TheWristBoundLatexBitch Fri 29-May-20 00:11:10

The teachers needed in most schools to do the "bubbles" is at least double what they already have. If it's a two form year, you may need 4 bubbles, so double teachers. Oh and then there is the class rooms!

How do you think schools will magically make this happen???

Some schools are staying shut except key worker children as that's all they can take.

Some schools will take one or two year groups, because they can.

Some schools (not many I'm guessing) will take all that they can back).

If your child goes back they will not be with friends, in their own class or with their teacher. This is childcare because the government said they need to open.

Let's stop bashing schools and teachers, and moaning because your child has a T.A. I'm not even a teacher nor do I work in a school, but I realise the difficulties the schools are facing.

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OhioOhioOhio Fri 29-May-20 00:13:42

Everyone thinks that they know how to teach and that it's easy.

Doyoumind Fri 29-May-20 00:14:45

YABU to start the hundredth thread on this.

SionnachRua Fri 29-May-20 00:15:21

Absolutely yes to all of this. I know that people are worn out and directing their frustration somewhere...but some of the threads are just crazy. There seems to be an expectation that teachers are magicians, not educators.

Some people must think teachers all work in the tardis and have acres of available classroom space. The other option seems to be armies of teachers and empty classrooms just waiting to be deployed.

MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:15:32

I think things have actually improved now the unions have wised up.
The reason some people were pissed off is that there seemed to be a huge reluctance from the teaching profession to open schools again- in any form that parents were made aware of, had the unions involved, when the rest of us had to go back to work and just get on with things.

TheWristBoundLatexBitch Fri 29-May-20 00:16:09

Apologies @Doyoumind all I've seen in the bashing threads and they are pissing me off! Sorry if this has also been said a hundred times

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maxonebitch Fri 29-May-20 00:19:07

* when the rest of us had to go back to work and just get on with things.*

Do the rest of you have to keep children safe ? Or do you sit in socially distanced offices without colleagues who sneeze on you, need you to change nappies etc?

TheWristBoundLatexBitch Fri 29-May-20 00:20:36

Is*

I know but I think because the government says it CAN happen people think it WILL happen. So many saying "why won't my children's school take them back"

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MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:21:35

Here we go- same thing every time. Not ‘there are issues with having x number of children, this is the plan’. Just we can’t do it. Except now they are doing it. And yes- I do no all about it and no I don’t work in an office.

TheWristBoundLatexBitch Fri 29-May-20 00:23:28

Exactly @maxonebitch how do you social distance nursery and reception? You can't. And this is why many schools are opting for year 6, although they are hormonal and haven't seen friends in a while.

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MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:25:00

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MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:26:19

You can’t socially distance and the government guidance doesn’t actually say you have to legally in care and education settings- it says you should where possible and put precautions such as gloves, face masks in place when you can not.

TwangBadge Fri 29-May-20 00:28:07

...except that teachers aren't allowed to wear masks while teaching...

NeverTwerkNaked Fri 29-May-20 00:28:19

I think the issue is the position the unions took .
Every other profession I can think of is either carrying on as normal and going out into the world to do their job, or has adapted and is delivering normal service but online.

The stance of"we won't go back to teach in schools but we also won't teach online either" was an astounding one to take and has inevitability damaged the reputation of profession.

bloated1977 Fri 29-May-20 00:29:20

MissMarks except when you work in a school setting that tells you that PPE isn't necessary and they haven't ordered any!

MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:29:43

Where does it say that teachers can’t wear masks when teaching? It certainly isn’t in the guidance I have read.

ZombieFan Fri 29-May-20 00:30:17

Less than half the number of classes are going back on Monday. So even if you split those in two you still have enough teachers to deal with them all.

maxonebitch Fri 29-May-20 00:32:08

It's in the guidance that it's unnecessary . I've been changing nappies and so on without it since lockdown started.

MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:32:10

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TheWristBoundLatexBitch Fri 29-May-20 00:32:50

I am glad someone else said about masks and ppe, as from this area there is none at all in schools. They have specifically said no way

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maxonebitch Fri 29-May-20 00:33:02

I wanted a mask and gloves but was told no to one and no reply when I asked for gloves.

MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:33:34

Maxone- presumably that is through your own choice? I can’t imagine a manager would make you remove a mask if you chose to wear one?

MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:34:14

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MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:36:08

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MissMarks Fri 29-May-20 00:38:37

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