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Surely they’ll have to allow us to go to one other household now

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SpongeCake23 Sat 23-May-20 23:41:57

Now that Dominic Cummings has done what he’s done and the government have supported him, saying he’s done nothing wrong.
Surely they’re going to have to allow us to mix with one household soon, otherwise it’s a huge hypocrisy.

Time2change2 Sat 23-May-20 23:43:33

He didn’t mix with a household I didn’t think? Thought he had his own house and was there just in case. Yes an idiot for travelling all that way with symptoms so not sticking up for him BTW!

SpongeCake23 Sat 23-May-20 23:46:18

I thought he went to stay with his parents, maybe I’m wrong. But I still think they need to lift some restrictions on seeing family properly soon, or it makes a mockery out of thr whole thing.

Time2change2 Sat 23-May-20 23:50:03

It does make a mockery yes. People have had to endure all manner of hardships without support. Some poor people have lost their husband / wife and has no one to comfort them and been left alone with kids during all of this! Him doing wrong is one thing but the government saying he’s not broken any rules is crazy. It’s either a major misjudgement from them or it’s all planned and people being angry is what they want

sniggy01 Sat 23-May-20 23:53:18

What I find difficult is that people are saying if he can do it so can I
What I’m saying is if I was in that situation I wouldn’t do it because I don’t want to endanger other people - he is not right but 2 wrongs can never make a right

Derbygerbil Sat 23-May-20 23:57:01

Apparently he went to a separate house nearby so his siblings could look after his child if they became too sick.... but even if not, the Government would be idiotic to change public health policy simply because an advisor didn’t adhere to it.

Derbygerbil Sat 23-May-20 23:57:58

What I find difficult is that people are saying if he can do it so can I

Yes, it’s childish...

ZombieFan Sun 24-May-20 00:03:54

He was in a separate property, he was did not mix with his extended family. After his uncle died of covid19 I can imagine he was just making sure his 4yo had someone to look after him if his wife and him where incapacitated.
I think seeing some family will happen in June, that is the way we are heading if all goes well.

Pixxie7 Sun 24-May-20 00:23:01

I don’t think he stayed with his parents but definitely visited them as reported by his parents neighbour and police.

PotholeParadise Sun 24-May-20 00:32:49

^He was in a separate property, he was did not mix with his extended family. After his uncle died of covid19 I can imagine he was just making sure his 4yo had someone to look after him if his wife and him where incapacitated.
I think seeing some family will happen in June, that is the way we are heading if all goes well.^

His uncle died over a week later.

You would think that someone as well connected as Dominic Cummings and his wife, who is a journalist, would be able to call on friends in London to take care of their child. Like one of the MPs who was defending him this morning on twitter.

Cummings has since claimed that they didn't need any help at the house after all, and between the pair of them, they took care of their son all on their own. So he trekked across England while symptomatic for nothing.

If all of us with children had fled to second homes or family members at the first symptom of possible coronavirus, there would have been no lockdown.

ZombieFan Sun 24-May-20 00:40:47

His uncle died over a week later
But he had been in hospital for three weeks. Which I imagine was quite a frightening time for them and wanting to protect your 4yo is a perfectly normal reaction. He is lucky he has such good family support.

ZombieFan Sun 24-May-20 00:42:51

If all of us with children had fled to second homes or family members I think very few of us who have caught the virus would have willing and able family with a nearby house sitting empty to go to.

PowerStruggle Sun 24-May-20 00:45:58

Grow up. You’re being told not to mix with family so you don’t spread the virus and destroy the NHS. Just because some tosspot politician has misbehaved doesn’t mean you should be liberated.

It’s not a game.

PotholeParadise Sun 24-May-20 00:55:43

Apparently enough of us have second homes that
the British public were asked not to go to second homes, for fear that we might spread the virus further afield. Cummings and Wakefield actually had symptoms, and went across the country.

It was hardly their only option.

Did you know that Piers Morgan has been tweeting that Wakefield (Cummings' wife) has a sister who lives very locally (about two streets away, allegedly)? Couldn't she have been their back-up plan for if they were both totally incapacitated? What about local friends?

Mulhollandmagoo Sun 24-May-20 00:58:59

@Time2change2 is correct, he didn't move in with family he stayed in another empty house - not sure if he owned it or not, so his family could help him out with shopping etc. if he became ill. It's still a really flimsy story as other parents have been in his position and have had to manage, so he should't have gone.

The Scottish health minister resigned when she was outed for going to get second home, which is effectively what he did so not sure why MPs are so quick to defend him....maybe he has some incriminating photos?

Mumoftwo0357 Sun 24-May-20 01:06:00

Cummings was wrong. He went to a house in his parents’ grounds while infected. He went on a nice day out to a castle. Then he came back to London. Then he went back there again and admired them bluebells. Judging by news coming out on twittter he then went there AGAIN on May 10.

He’s taking the mick, but just because he was wrong doesn’t mean we should stoop to his level.

I get why people feel that way. I totally understand. But don’t rush infecting others just because he did.

Mumoftwo0357 Sun 24-May-20 01:06:13

Risk not rush darn it

Mumoftwo0357 Sun 24-May-20 01:13:33

Zombie

Our relative died. Our other relative - a dr - was very poorly with Covid. She cared for her own kids from another room as best she could while her husband isolated so he could continue treating Covid patients (he’s also a dr).

She did not drive the 350 miles to her parents.

Note Cummings also went out to a castle one day, out to admire bluebells another day, and went back up to Durham for second visit and its looking like he went back up a third time.

Our relative - a healthy 30s - after six week is still too poorly to do all that back and forthing.

It’s indefensible.

SunflowerSeedsForever Sun 24-May-20 01:18:07

You would think that someone as well connected as Dominic Cummings and his wife, who is a journalist, would be able to call on friends in London to take care of their child. Like one of the MPs who was defending him this morning on twitter.

Very close to Michael Gove. Used to be his Spad.

Inkpaperstars Sun 24-May-20 01:19:49

It isn't (yet) proven he mixed households, and even if he did two wrongs don't make a right. The advice may change either sooner or later, but it has to be changed when it makes sense not because some idiot who broke the rules is part of the govt.

What can happen right away though is that he be fired, so as not to give the impression this doesn't matter.

Chinchinatti Sun 24-May-20 01:24:29

Well it certainly means that the rules he made up, he doesn't believe in himself. So, I ain't following no more rules. Fuck the lot of them.

Inkpaperstars Sun 24-May-20 01:30:12

I don't know if all these people breaking the rules don't believe in the rules. They may believe in the rules and think they are very important, but on a population level not an individual one, and they think they can be exceptions. They are actually just another member of the wider UK public, and if we all decide we are exceptions they will be in the shit like everyone else. So you'd hope they could at least pretend to set a good example.

ZombieFan Sun 24-May-20 02:02:49

Piers Morgan has been tweeting that Wakefield (Cummings' wife) has a sister who lives very locally (about two streets away, allegedly)? Couldn't she have been their back-up plan for if they were both totally incapacitated?

a) Piers Morgan is an idiot.
b) Maybe the wifes sister in London didn't volunteer or wasn't able to look after a 4yo whose parents had the virus.

crustycrab Sun 24-May-20 02:14:07

"He went on a nice day out to a castle"

Have castles been open? I thought he went to Barnard Castle?

LuluJakey1 Sun 24-May-20 02:17:16

Barnard Castle is a town.

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