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Do we use our common sense or do we stick to the rules?

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StealthPolarBear Tue 12-May-20 10:10:12

Because as far as I can see it's not possible to do both

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Sparklingbrook Tue 12-May-20 10:13:08

I think just do everything you can within your power to not catch CV or spread it about.

StealthPolarBear Tue 12-May-20 10:14:53

So common sense approach. I'd tend to agree but I am also a rule follower.
Like most people, I assume, I'm finding this all very stressful

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Sparklingbrook Tue 12-May-20 10:19:23

Yes I am a rule follower too, I get that. I dropped some food to my parents yesterday and we did our usual yell at each other from the bottom of the drive. I dropped the shopping there for them to pick up when I drive off.
I stand there thinking ‘sod this put the kettle on and I will come in for a cuppa’ surely if I say at one end of the living room and them the other what’s the harm? But I can’t bring myself to do it.

RiftGibbon Tue 12-May-20 10:21:21

I follow rules which are logical and practical, and which are beneficial to myself and others. In cases where rules are in place for the sake of rules then I will look at common sense.

NewAccountForCorona Tue 12-May-20 10:29:06

I'm a bit cynical about people (and to be honest I see it on here more than in real life) saying "we are adults, let us make our own decisions, assess our own risk, act sensibly" etc etc.

After all, we wouldn't apply that to the rest of society, precisely because we cannot trust people, in general, to not be bloody selfish.

For example, we don't say - we are all adults, we don't need laws about shoplifting or burglary, everyone can assess their own risk, no-one will do anything stupid, we don't need to lock our doors or give the police powers of arrest.

We can't all just decide that we don't agree with this rule/law, it's stupid, we're going to use my common sense.

NewAccountForCorona Tue 12-May-20 10:29:56

I'm in Ireland. We have rules. We are (generally) following them - apart from my local teenagers but I do have some sympathy with them.

StealthPolarBear Tue 12-May-20 10:31:18

Yes true.i agree with all of that.
But if I were a single parent with a toddler I'd be very confused as to why I was excluded from the "meet one other person in the park" rule. It makes no sense.

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MarthasGinYard Tue 12-May-20 10:31:59

'Yes I am a rule follower too, I get that. I dropped some food to my parents yesterday and we did our usual yell at each other from the bottom of the drive. I dropped the shopping there for them to pick up when I drive off.
I stand there thinking ‘sod this put the kettle on and I will come in for a cuppa’ surely if I say at one end of the living room and them the other what’s the harm? But I can’t bring myself to do it.'

Spark, that is exactly what I'm doing and how I feel every time. Like you, I just can't though.

Sparklingbrook Tue 12-May-20 10:35:17

I think it every time too @MarthasGinYard. A proper battle with my conscience. But there’s something within me which won’t allow it.

ComtesseDeSpair Tue 12-May-20 10:35:55

I’m using my own form of “common sense” and have been since the beginning of lockdown. I’m not a rule follower where the rules make little sense and are aimed at the lowest common denominator.

In terms of the “one other person outside your household rule” I largely suspect that the scientific advice to the government has been that, epidemiologically, meeting even multiple people, one at a time, in the open air, without physical contact is low risk for virus transmission.

ladyvimes Tue 12-May-20 10:38:32

Well people on this thread have already shown a lack of common sense so there’s your answer. The difference between dropping off shopping to going in for a cuppa is that going inside means you’re in a more confined space so more likely to spread germs, you’ll be touching things within the house, etc, etc. This is why we need rules.

MarthasGinYard Tue 12-May-20 10:40:12

'Well people on this thread have already shown a lack of common sense so there’s your answer.'

Who?

Honeyroar Tue 12-May-20 10:42:42

@ComtesseDeSpair the point of only meeting one person rather than multiple is that people forget the social distancing much easier when there is more going on to distract them - as the clapping/dancing on doorsteps and VE celebrations have clearly shown. It’s nothing to do with transmission.

ginsparkles Tue 12-May-20 10:48:41

Mostly sticking to the rules with one small exception. In order for me to meet the one other person from outside of my household I will be taking my daughter so we will be a group of 3, maintaining our 2m from the other household. Otherwise we'll be sticking to it.

maddy68 Tue 12-May-20 10:52:05

Common sense. A lot of this report is nonsense. I can have my cleaner in this been in dozens of houses but can't have both my parents sitting outside metres away with no contact ? But I can have them individually when they live in the same house ?

Littlepoppet1 Tue 12-May-20 10:53:36

Same here ginsparkles I am planning on meeting my mum later in the week for a socially distanced walk and I’ll have my 18 MO DD in her pram. Sticking to everything else though and I am not planning on driving anywhere to exercise either I will be staying in my local area.

Lweji Tue 12-May-20 10:58:46

I dropped some food to my parents yesterday and we did our usual yell at each other from the bottom of the drive. I dropped the shopping there for them to pick up when I drive off.

You don't need to do that. You can stay 2-3 meters apart and not have to shout.

It's safer to be closer outside because the air tends to disperse faster.
Inside, it's less safe, unless you open all the windows and create air currents. Even if you stay apart indoors you'll have gone through the same areas to get to where you sit.

It would be safer if you went for a short walk together.

Bluebellpainting Tue 12-May-20 10:59:25

@ginsparkles and @littlepoppet1. I feel the same. Very torn. I’m a rule follower but when I’m stuck at home with my baby so can’t meet someone I think some common sense should apply. As someone said on the radio this morning we can take them in the shop as we count as a unit but not to meet someone else as that isn’t one on one. I know one is for food but if this rule has come in for mental health of people- why do single parents and parents of young children seem not to matter?

Sparklingbrook Tue 12-May-20 11:00:28

Well people on this thread have already shown a lack of common sense so there’s your answer. The difference between dropping off shopping to going in for a cuppa is that going inside means you’re in a more confined space so more likely to spread germs, you’ll be touching things within the house, etc, etc. This is why we need rules.

Which is why I don't do it, because I would worry. confused but thanks anyway. grin I have a conscience and common sense!

81Byerley Tue 12-May-20 11:02:34

Use your common sense. I haven't even bothered to watch the advice given, or updates. If something is outside and it wants to kill me, I'm not going out there. As for the people desperate to get back to normal, and pushing the boundaries, they should take a look at this cartoon.

Sparklingbrook Tue 12-May-20 11:02:48

You don't need to do that. You can stay 2-3 meters apart and not have to shout.

I and my parents are happy with me at the bottom of the drive. It's 5 minutes tops. If i get any closer I might want to hug them even more. sad

ginsparkles Tue 12-May-20 11:06:12

@bluebellpainting I think that as both DM and DD and I have all been in our houses alone for the past 2 months the risks in us going on a socially distanced walk together is pretty minimal. DM would be at the same risk with other people if she walked alone. The biggest risk is my DD wanted to hug DM but it's been explained and I would remind her as we arrived and hold her hand to stop her.

Alsohuman Tue 12-May-20 11:18:33

The rules as they currently stand and common sense are a million miles apart.

Bluebellpainting Tue 12-May-20 11:32:04

@ginsparkles absolutely and that is where common sense applies but according to the advisor they had on the radio this morning it is breaking the rules.

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