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If you want lockdown lifted, watch 102 hospital

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AmelieTaylor · 11/05/2020 21:25

Watch this, then tell me that you still want lockdown lifted.

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LockdownLoppy · 11/05/2020 21:29

More info needed op?????

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IncrediblySadToo · 11/05/2020 21:33

BBC2 hospital documentary.

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Gingernaut · 11/05/2020 21:33

BBC2 (Sky 102) - Hospital Special - Fighting Covid-19.

Part 1 of 2.

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ComtesseDeSpair · 11/05/2020 21:34

I don’t know many people who “want lockdown lifted” in the sense of all restrictions removed; but an increasing amount of people realise that we need to be realistic about gradually getting things working again. It isn’t a dichotomy between “people’s lives” and “the economy”, the economy is people and their lives and a lot of those lives won’t be worth living if there are no jobs for many to go back to and no money to pay for the support the most vulnerable will need.

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AmelieTaylor · 11/05/2020 21:37

It's a BBC2 Documentary on Hospitals during COVID-19 at the point we went into lockdown. It's about bithbcivid & non COVID patients.

It's shows why lockdown & reducing the R rate is important.

It will hopefully open the eyes of the people who think lockdown isn't for them.

Boris should watch it too. Not everyone gets pre emotive 2:1 nursing care as soon as they have symptoms.

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AmelieTaylor · 11/05/2020 21:42

God I hope Peter makes it

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PleasantVille · 11/05/2020 21:55

There's no imminent vaccine or cure and we can't stay like this for ever, we have to start to lift restrictions. I haven't heard even the slightest suggestion that we suddenly go back to normal overnight, no one's saying we should lift the lockdown are they?

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DamnYankee · 11/05/2020 22:06

ComtesseDeSpair

What she said (slow clap). I don't think anyone is advocating a free for all, here. Hmm
Dichotomies are not sustainable and typically created or clutched fast by people who

  1. have no critical thinking skills - a.k.a "sloppy thinkers" -
  2. have no desire to take responsibility for themselves
  3. really enjoy having a reason to despise people for not thinking as they do

    So, yes, watch the documentary. But do other research. Observe the mental/financial/physical health of those around you. Weight the risks and benefits. And then decide for yourself.
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Limeavocado · 11/05/2020 22:17

Hear hear @ComtesseDeSpair @PleasantVille and @DamnYankee

Each of your calm measured responses were well articulated and truly refreshing. I agree that it's a careful balancing act rather than all or nothing - IMHO neither extreme is right for where we all are today.

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AmelieTaylor · 11/05/2020 22:39

@ComtesseDeSpair
I don’t know many people who “want lockdown lifted” in the sense of all restrictions removed. Then you haven't read many threads.

@PleasantVille.
we can't stay like this for ever
No one was suggesting we did, but we don't need to bolt out the stable door. NI, Wales ,Scotland... a much more measured approach.

@DamnYankee
Jog on.
How rude & stupid of you to assume I haven't done any research or made any other observations.or weighed things up.

It's the people carping on about being bored or needing their hair cut or whatever that need to do some research, instead of plotting how to get around the guidelines.

@limeavocado have you even listened to BJ today? - you call THAT careful balancing? It's not, it's utter fucking chaos, that'll have us back to where we were before lockdown - which us what the documentary was about.

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Tootletum · 11/05/2020 22:41

Yeah or you could just accept that death is a part of life and we can't prevent all of it. My mother used to work in Borneo in the villages along the river. She knew of a mother of seven children with no husband. One of her kids fell out of a tree and the wound got infected. It could have been fixed with antibiotics, but she was too poor to be able to leave her work to take him, so he died. No documentary showing people who lead comparatively comfortable lives dying of a disease we can't treat is going to make me believe preventing a few cases is worth destroying our chance against many far more preventable diseases. Because that is what is happening if our economy fails to be able to pay for healthcare or anything else.

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DamnYankee · 11/05/2020 23:36

@AmelieTaylor
Hmm. I can see where you think I meant you personally; however, it was the collective I was referring to. I do apologize for that.

The rest...? I'm going to let good manners, rationality, and my faith in others' good intentions rule and let it lie.

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TinRoofRusty · 11/05/2020 23:39

I'm with the others, the virus is going nowhere, the restrictions as they are now are unsustainable.

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yogz1976 · 12/05/2020 10:36

I refuse to watch anything those agents of government propaganda put out because I know they wont present a balanced picture. I lost my faith in the BBC after the Jimmy Saville scandal and their failure to report on the genocide in Yemen - the biggest human catastrophe of recent years.

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LimitIsUp · 12/05/2020 11:15

Covid wont kill my 17 year old but I am genuinely fearful that lockdown will

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Sandybval · 12/05/2020 11:17

There are other factors outside of covid, it's actually a privelledged position if it's your only concern, and you're happy for lockdown to go on indefinitely. How about trying to have some empathy, and realise that the vast majority of people who want it lifted don't feel that way just so they can pop to the pub.

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Sandybval · 12/05/2020 11:18

Also yes, the BBC is a biased hunk of crap.

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imsooverthisdrama · 12/05/2020 11:27

Most people don't want lockdown lifted they want it eased slowly which it is .
40% of deaths are from care homes and yes it's a scary virus and you are within you rights to be frightened and worried as we all are but I'm getting fed up of people trying to create hysteria. It's a difficult time for all and some are really struggling .
We need to manage the virus and weather you agree or not we need to make steps for the country to get back to some sort of normal .

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