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Are they using R, Y1 and Y6 as an experiment?

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Crunchymum Sun 10-May-20 20:12:10

To see how the R rate is after these year groups go back?

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bellinisurge Sun 10-May-20 20:16:11

Dd is y8 - the least worst year to be off like this. I would say, in primary, the three years identified would be the most in need of being IN.

Fixitquick Sun 10-May-20 20:16:22

Yes

SallyLovesCheese Sun 10-May-20 20:16:32

They'll monitor the R value after those year groups go back and if it stays below 1 they'll open up schools to other year groups, yes.

TheDrsDocMartens Sun 10-May-20 20:25:50

Should send year 10/12back at the same time?

SallyLovesCheese Sun 10-May-20 22:59:39

Probably not secondary yet, especially upper, because they're more like adults in terms of risk? They want to see if there's a rise in cases with children going back first: if lots of teachers, parents and their families start contracting it, they'll know they can't risk the older pupils yet either. Possibly.

starrynight19 Sun 10-May-20 23:01:22

Luckily the year r and 1 kids are great at social distancing so a relief all round for the staff.

NotAnotherUserNumber Sun 10-May-20 23:02:15

No, it is about balancing risk and working towards the least possible overall harm and these years are the ones with more children most at risk through not being at school.

Nicedayforawedding Sun 10-May-20 23:03:33

Yes they are experimenting with the youngest children.

There really is no other explanation. Why send these groups back in? As usual, no proper reason from the government.

Nicedayforawedding Sun 10-May-20 23:04:38

Year 10 and 12 would at least make sense.

starrynight19 Sun 10-May-20 23:05:03

Notanotherusernumber why are those group of children most at risk out of interest ?

Fern1965 Sun 10-May-20 23:06:07

Why are R and Y1 most at risk from not being at school? Any vulnerability reasons aside.

coronareality2020 Sun 10-May-20 23:07:07

I would say possibly yes for Y6, and use R Y1 as a "control" group as they are less risky

Bringonspring Sun 10-May-20 23:08:03

It’s a balance with the economy, R and Y1 difficult to work from home with. A 9 year old it is easier etc

LJL1 Sun 10-May-20 23:08:04

Hmm I won't be consenting to this. My Yr 6 child will be sitting this one out.. It's not worth the risk.

TheGinGenie Sun 10-May-20 23:08:23

I assumed it was because the younger kids are, the harder it is to teach them remotely, and then year 6 for the transition to secondary school. Just guessing though.

Greendayz Sun 10-May-20 23:08:36

You could just as well argue that they are "experimenting" with the other year groups to see what damage six months of isolation and no education or social contact with other children does to them.

No options are risk free.

lockedown Sun 10-May-20 23:09:02

Yes! Can't see any social distancing being maintained by reception children. The classes are small and can't see of any provisions like separate desks like in schools in other countries.
Wonder what steps they are going to take to make the schools safer. Ours is a three form school - definitely will be large social gathering for pickup drop.

WhoCaresAnyway95 Sun 10-May-20 23:09:31

My daughter is in reception and she won't be returning in June as the government's guinea pig. I think they need to reduce class sizes massively for this, my daughter's reception class has 32 children. How do they expect 4 and 5 year olds to social distance? confused

Greendayz Sun 10-May-20 23:10:47

Fern I would guess they think R and Y1 are at most risk from neglect at home (as parents try to WFH and can't give them the attention they need) and also most likely to fall behind educationally with a large gap - as six months is a very long time when you're five.

TheGinGenie Sun 10-May-20 23:12:53

I don't think they are expecting kids to social distance

Justajot Sun 10-May-20 23:14:06

All we need to prove it is a grinning photo of a cabinet minister dropping their year R child back to school like Selwyn Gummer and the burger.

NotAnotherUserNumber Sun 10-May-20 23:14:33

@starrynight19

Early years and year 1 are more at risk of suffering from lasting developmental disadvantage and for some children at a greater risk from potential neglect etc. Year 6 is important for the transition to secondary, children who miss this may struggle at the start of secondary which can lead to lasting disadvantage.

There is also the mental health aspect. Many year 6 are struggling particularly with missing their end of primary journey.

Overall, the current school situation is widening the disadvantage gap and the impact is likely to be worst in these years.

Bringonspring Sun 10-May-20 23:14:41

No they are not expecting them to social distance. They have just deemed the risk to be insignificant

Concerned7777 Sun 10-May-20 23:15:03

@starrynight19 as a Mum to a 5yo 10yo and 13yo I would say my 5yo has been affected the most by school being closed . Purely on the experience of my own dc his emotional wellbeing, physical wellbeing and educational wellbeing has been harmed or more at risk than his siblings. Not sure if thats what PP meant but that's my interpretation and I have to agree. He needs familiarity stability routine and normality they simply dont understand why their world are upside down all of a sudden. Of course they wont social distance they dont understand it properly but I agree they should go back sooner than later.

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