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Shielded people and a second wave

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Bercows Wed 06-May-20 20:04:30

Just thinking about a possible second wave. If people are shielded during this first wave, will they be shielded in the second too? I'd assume so. What happens if there's a third wave? Will we keep getting 12 week shielding advice. I feel like I'll be staying shielded for ages.

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ChablisandCrisps Wed 06-May-20 20:06:38

Worrying isn't it. Can't see many employers keeping people on if this is the case, I'm a civil servant and would be dismissed for medical inefficiency with a small payout if I couldn't provide "regular and effective service".

ChavvySexPond Wed 06-May-20 20:17:56

Those of you who have been careless enough to get a pre-existing condition must stay indoors forever now because Karen has had to restrict her activities for six whole weeks and she couldn't stand it. And why should she when she's fit and well?

ItsMsActually Wed 06-May-20 20:19:18

I fucking hate the 'Karen' thing. It's classist and sexist.

Lumene Wed 06-May-20 20:20:55

The people not abiding by lockdown tend to be younger men, doubt any of them are called Karen.

BeyondMymymymyCorona Wed 06-May-20 20:21:06

I want to know how shielding a second/third/fourth time will work with small children who due to their normal child-clinginess will not stay 2m away from mum at all times. Obv the schooling question has already been asked, but I want to know what will happen with the DCs seeing their dad - they've been shielded alongside me perfectly happily as it was lower risk to me than them travelling between us, but I doubt he will be happy with it longer term. But being with him and his lackadaisical social distancing (he's not stopped socialising for one...) will make returning home to me an issue.

endofthelinefinally Wed 06-May-20 20:22:41

I am shielding. Fortunately I am also retired.
I have been isolating since early February as it was obvious what was coming. I will continue to isolate because I will probably die if I catch it. I just want to stay alive a bit longer, for my dc.

Ughmaybenot Wed 06-May-20 20:22:48

* I fucking hate the 'Karen' thing. It's classist and sexist.*
This exactly.

I really don’t know OP, but I’ll be glad to read some opinions on it.

MissBax Wed 06-May-20 20:23:00

Has anyone got any clue what the plans might be for people shielding once restrictions are lifted? If people are to go back to work or allowed to socialise will vulnerable/pregnant/elderly people be advised not to?

Ruddle91 Wed 06-May-20 20:24:43

Following this as I'm concerned it could go on for ages :/

BeyondMymymymyCorona Wed 06-May-20 20:24:50

ExH's name isn't Karen either. Though I'd bet that if someone guessed a male class/generation equivalent name, they would probably be right grin

Tatty101 Wed 06-May-20 20:25:40

The thing is, shielding is hard, really hard.

I'd rather shield as many times as it takes than catch this, put more stress on the NHS at this time and put myself at serious risk. We didn't get the letter because it was fun for NHS England so I'd rather take that advice seriously.

Sexnotgender Wed 06-May-20 20:26:42

I’d love to know the answer to this too.

My 16 year old daughter is shielding and obviously needs to go back to school at some point.

EatShitBoswell Wed 06-May-20 21:27:49

** Good question OP! I've been thinking about this too. My mum is really lonely but obviously the risk to vulnerable people isn't just going to disappear and I really don't want to lose her so it's really scary to think about how long this might go on.

* ExH's name isn't Karen either. Though I'd bet that if someone guessed a male class/generation equivalent name, they would probably be right*

Tony?

EatShitBoswell Wed 06-May-20 21:30:01

Oh I bolded the wrong section of my post 😭 again!!

aWeaponCalledtheWord Wed 06-May-20 21:30:20

i’m in the swing of it now, and i’ll die if it get it so i’m staying in.

70sduvet Wed 06-May-20 21:38:56

I phoned the (New?) Coronavirus helpline in northern Ireland today to confirm something regarding my son's shielding letter. He is 7.
We got the letter weeks ago.
I was told to start the 12 weeks from today.

So what's that... end of July?
I can't see the shielding ending at all they just don't want to say it.

But we don't know how to go forward either. How do you sheild a young child?

Newjez Wed 06-May-20 22:03:50

It's one thing to lose your job because of cv19. It's another to be prevented from getting a job because you are vulnerable. I would like to see some sort of financial protection for those shielding.

Tolleshunt Wed 06-May-20 22:09:49

Worried, as Dh is shielded, but DD is 4 and needs to go back to school. I also need her in school so I can work and keep a roof over our heads. Not sure how this can work..,,

mumwon Wed 06-May-20 22:24:33

so if you (or dp/h/w or significant other) are over 70 plus vulnerable but not as far as you can gather/know shielding how long are you (& ditto) suppose to shelter/isolate & not meet up with your family
will it be allowed/ok to meet up or not - it doesn't seem that clear - there is some talk of small group but that isn't clear as to who wont be allowed/advised against joining this -
if this sounds confused than that expresses how I feel

Methtones Wed 06-May-20 22:28:20

I wish theyd be upfront and give us a clue.

Cupcakegirl13 Wed 06-May-20 22:30:03

I don’t think there will be a time when the gov come out and say it’s officially safe for shielded to go out , until many many months down the line.
In reality a large chunk of shielded people and their families will have to find a way to exist whilst managing the risk as best they can. We are shielding my 5 year old but my husband has to go to work he can’t stay off indefinitely and still get paid.
I try to apply some perspective though and sometimes the people on threads like this who declare they will die if they get it are very unhelpful because if you look at the death rate for people with Pre existing conditions that is simply not true you generally still have over a 90% survival rate.
The shielded will have to live with a degree of risk like they always do anyway with many other illnesses and risks.

BlueBrian Wed 06-May-20 22:32:01

The latest guidelines say that shielded people will be banned from working unless it's from home, this is obviously tricky, because if you can't work from home and your employer won't keep you on, you've got no way of earning any money, You can't claim unemployment pay because you can't look for work. The government haven't as yet made any suggestions about what exactly they expect people to live off, though knowing this lot, they'll probably say SSP, which is completely inadequate for most people.

www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/governments-draft-plan-to-ease-lockdown-workpace-in-full

BlueBrian Wed 06-May-20 22:46:37

Sorry working from home should read working at home.

ViciousJackdaw Wed 06-May-20 23:05:35

Those of you who have been careless enough to get a pre-existing condition must stay indoors forever now because Karen has had to restrict her activities for six whole weeks and she couldn't stand it. And why should she when she's fit and well?

What would you prefer? The whole country to remain at a standstill indefinitely?

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