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Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:20:27

Very positive results and already in mass production!

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Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:27:10

NIH’s Anthony Fauci says at White House that data on Gilead’s remdesivir show “clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery” and shows “drug can block this virus”

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IcedPurple Wed 29-Apr-20 17:31:10

Are you sure?

From The Guardian live blog:

*No clinical benefits from remdesivir, study finds

Treating coronavirus patients with the antiviral drug remdesivir showed no “significant clinical benefits” in the first randomised trial of its kind, according to research released on Wednesday, AFP reports.

In a study among more than 200 COVID-19 patients in Wuhan, China, published in The Lancet, doctors found no positive effects of administering the drug compared with a control group of adults.

The findings were released after US pharmaceutical giant Gilead, which makes remdesivir, said a separate large-scale trial with the drug had showed positive results.

“Unfortunately, our trial found that while safe and adequately tolerated, remdesivir did not provide significant benefits over placebo,” said Bin Cao from China-Japan Friendship Hospital and Capital Medical University in China, who led the research.

“This is not the outcome we hoped for.”*

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:31:58

I’m very sure. All this is from today. It’s very good news!

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IcedPurple Wed 29-Apr-20 17:34:19

So you missed the bit about how the Chinese study found that "remdesivir did not provide significant benefits over placebo"?

This news is also from today.

CricketCrocket Wed 29-Apr-20 17:37:32

Gilead manufacture remdesivir and have done the trial as well?

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:38:24

I don’t know what happened with the Chinese study and why it failed.

This drug will be fast-tracked by the FDA and will be given to 100% of patients.

Another new standard of care in US is giving patients blood thinners to prevent clotting.

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Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:39:54


Yes, Gilead preformed the trial as well.

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CricketCrocket Wed 29-Apr-20 17:41:31

Yes, Gilead preformed the trial as well.

I think they’ve got a vested interest then. Sorry, I just don’t trust anyone anymore!

PaulTheWineGuyPaul Wed 29-Apr-20 17:42:36

First time I’m gonna say this...

OP, are you on glue?

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:44:27

I know people who are covering this.

NIAID press briefing will be today, 5pm US time.

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Marmite27 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:44:51

Is anyone else freaked by a company called Gilead making drugs? Or is it just me? hmm

And wasn’t there rumours of Covid-19 affecting fertility...

midgebabe Wed 29-Apr-20 17:46:35

I believe the first reported negative trial was when the drug was given to seriously ill people

There was at the time a suggestion that giving people the drug early in the infection might give a different outcome

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:48:21


That’s just silly.

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Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:50:15

Gilead practically cracked the HIV code. They are famous for their HIV drugs.

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HerRoyalNotness Wed 29-Apr-20 17:50:45

Could be good news.

On the China study “ That study was stopped early because of difficulty in finding enough COVID-19 patients to enroll in China, the researchers noted. Given that that study didn't reach full enrollment, the results are "inconclusive," John David Norrie, a professor at the University of Edinburgh”

Didkdt Wed 29-Apr-20 17:50:56

I've read that certain treatments are only effective if started earlier. One of our local GP practices was trialling I think the anti malarial being given in the initial stages (after trdring) to see if it improved outcomes.
It would make sense I think.

Didkdt Wed 29-Apr-20 17:51:15

After testing

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:52:21

Meant to post this link. HIV medication.

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LaurieMarlow Wed 29-Apr-20 17:52:40

It’s to do with how early it’s administered.

I believe the side effects are nasty though, so might be difficult to gauge if it’s ‘worth it’ when the patient isn’t particularly ill.

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:55:50


Yes, in China study patients were given remdesivir 12 days after testing positive for Covid-19.

New study gets great results 3 days after testing positive.

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IcedPurple Wed 29-Apr-20 17:56:07

Gilead practically cracked the HIV code. They are famous for their HIV drugs.

Do you work for them? Why are you ignoring the fact that other stories have had poor results?

Mumlove5 Wed 29-Apr-20 17:58:27


I know people who cover them. Briefing will be 5pm today US time. More reports will come out later this week.

It’s good news. Be happy smile

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onalongsabbatical Wed 29-Apr-20 18:00:13

You're in the US OP? Bleachieville?
On this one, I trust the UK's doctors/researchers.

GingerScallop Wed 29-Apr-20 18:00:33

Medical trials are very complex and it's not surprising that two studies find different results. Under normal circumstances, several of these would be carried out, many double blind and randomised. Then the various studies would be assessed, accounting for any confounding factors (was treatment too late, may be ethnicity, co-morbidities/underlying factors etc) would be taken into account before a drug is actually approved. But these are not normal times so FDA approval doesn't mean as much as it normally would. But it's a piece of good news.

As for Gilead, it's been in existence for a long time. I suspect the name was chosen in reference to biblical reference of "balm of Gilead". A rare perfume or balm that was used for healing in ancient city of Gilead. There is even an African American hymn

There is a balm in Gilead
To make the wounded whole;
There is a balm in Gilead
To heal the sin sick soul.

So no. Atwood's novel is not about to become reality

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