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Will the vaccine be made mandatory?

32 replies

CathyandHeathcliff · 17/04/2020 15:22

I’m not anti vaxx, I’ve had my DS vaccinated. So please don’t jump at me.
But I’m scared of the new vaccine being made mandatory. I keep reading things saying it will be. The latest from someone who works for the NHS on my Facebook.
The fact it’ll be such a new vaccine and sort of rushed out makes me panic.
I’ve never had the flu vaccine as I’m not eligible.

Is anyone else feeling this way?
Most people are so scared and so desperate to get back to normality that they will inevitably get it. My mum has already said she’ll be first in the queue.

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nibdedibble · 17/04/2020 15:23

Nobody knows. Anything. At this point. HTH.

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CrunchyCarrot · 17/04/2020 15:26

I doubt it, actually. Based on the sheer number of doses that would be required to vax the entire country. I think it will be very strongly recommended for all those who are 60 plus, or have underlying health conditions. I think loads of people will sign up for it anyway.

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Hairwizard · 17/04/2020 15:32

I sincerely hope not.

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bellinisurge · 17/04/2020 15:34

No. The same anti vaxxer twats will be wittering on about it secretly hoping everyone else does it for them. As usual.

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crustycrab · 17/04/2020 15:35

Doubt it but if you read the legislation it can be mandatory

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coconuttelegraph · 17/04/2020 15:36

Nobody knows. Anything. At this point. HTH

Summed up in one line, no one can possibly tell you, you aren't hoping for an actual answer are you?

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LimitIsUp · 17/04/2020 15:37

I sincerely hope so.

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LetMeOut · 17/04/2020 15:38

I will have it and my dc but I really hope it is not mandatory

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MrsKypp · 17/04/2020 15:43

I hope it will be

(once it's proven to be effective and not cause serious side effects).

Vaccines don't seem to provide 100% protection, so a high % of the population will need to have had it in order to make life safer again for the 20% of people who'd be seriously ill / die if they got Covid-19. Even the 80% who get away with it this time could possibly not be so lucky next time.

The name 'Covid-19' sounds like a pop group, not an evil viral disease, so remember this is SARS (SARS-COV-2)

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Keepdistance · 17/04/2020 15:51

I think it should be apart from those that cant have it
Because there will be people who cant have it - do you expect those people and children to never go back to work /school?

Vax are not 100% effective. Mmr about 80-90% after 1 vax.

You may not be able to vax pg or babies.
If it does spread round a school and your child gives it to a vaxxed but not immune child their GP/parents /baby sibling could die.
I think it's more reasonable to exclude from school those kids whose parents refuse to vax than the poor kids with cancer etc.
But tbh i wouldnt worry too much if you aren't actively avoiding getting it now then youll have likely had it by the time a vax comes out and might be immune.

Also countries in midst of vaxxing would likely not allow you entrance until youve had it or vaxxed.

Im not sure of the % that cant have vax but if you add to that the babies and pregnant and the failure rate then you probably do need almost all who can to have it.

Natural immunity might wane and we have to have doses every year of vax.

Even if you think youd be fine about 1/4 people dying have no underlying health issue and some are pretty fit and some are young too. You just dont know. Even if you get it mildly you would shed virus for 2-3w risking people wherever you go and might have to take 2w off for every cold symptom.
However i think it would probably take a year to distribute a vax to 66m people. Though they could get more pharmacies involved etc. Schools.

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NameChangedToProtect1 · 17/04/2020 15:53

I doubt it though I would not object. There is no need to worry about any vaccine as the chances of an issue are very low. Any side effect is more likely to be an allegy to a component of the vaccine therfore it's most likely a very small group that would be affected. It's quite likey that alergens would be identifed early on in development so people with known allergies could avoid it or worst case require testing pre inoculation.

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CrunchyCarrot · 17/04/2020 17:28

Some news now from the daily briefing. The govt has launched a 'vaccine taskforce' in order to develop a vaccine as soon as possible. Yet there are no guarantees that a vaccine can be produced quickly.

The idea seems to be to roll out any vaccine to those who are most vulnerable first. No-one mentioned anything about it being mandatory but then again there might not be an absolute answer to that right now anyway, it's simply too early.

They also mentioned 'we may need more than one vaccine'. Not sure exactly what that means - against different strains of the virus, maybe?

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DGRossetti · 17/04/2020 18:33

Vax are not 100% effective. Mmr about 80-90% after 1 vax.

It's not just that ... there will be a tiny (less than 1 in a million ?) chance of a reaction to the procedure that could result in death or a serious outcome.

Still a lot better than a 1 in 1,000 chance of contracting the disease and a 1 in 50 chance of then dying from it.

And ideally a lot less than being struck by lightning ....

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Verily1 · 17/04/2020 18:36

It’s only the vulnerable who need the vax.

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daisychain01 · 17/04/2020 18:45

I’ve never had the flu vaccine as I’m not eligible.

You may not be eligible for a flu vaccine on the NHS but you can walk into a Boots or Superdrug and pay £10 and they will give you one (normally around Oct/Nov at the start of seasonal flu time).

It’s only the vulnerable who need the vax

On what basis are you saying this? There isn't an approved vaccine yet, so how do you know only the vulnerable need it?

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PuzzledObserver · 17/04/2020 20:00

It’s only the vulnerable who need the vax.

I know a couple of people who are not particularly vulnerable (40’s/50’s, no health issues) but have been really ill. Not needing hospital, but been completely out of it for a week and looks like taking several more weeks to really kick it. Many people would think that is worth vaccinating against.

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Glaceon · 17/04/2020 22:07

Doubt it. No vaccine has ever been mandatory. I certainly wont be clambering over anyone to get one I'm one of the least vulnerable categories.

Dont know if my partners blood clots make them high risk but they already said they wont get one (believes some conspiracy theories).

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NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite · 17/04/2020 22:16

I’m scared of the new vaccine being made mandatory. I keep reading things saying it will be. The latest from someone who works for the NHS on my Facebook.
Over 1.5 million people work for the NHS and virtually all of them are not in a position to have any knowledge of whether vaccinations would be mandatory.

I would also be very surprised if any Govt of our country would ever make vaccinations compulsory. It goes against everything we stand for.

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WhateverHappenedToBathPearls · 17/04/2020 22:16

"Doubt it. No vaccine has ever been mandatory*

This. We don't have mandatory vaccination in this country.

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ofwarren · 17/04/2020 22:16

No vaccine has ever been made mandatory in this country but it is in others. There is a chance you won't be allowed into many countries without having the vaccination.
They could possibly put restrictions on your child attending school unvaccinated or even certain jobs. We don't know yet and the new legislation certainly allows for this.

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slipperywhensparticus · 17/04/2020 22:21

Because there has been a dip in vaccine uptake in recent years there has been and possibly will always be discussions over mandatory vaccines it's been "on the table" for over 40 years (my mom remembers it being reported as up for discussion when I was born) it's not happened yet

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Ellmau · 17/04/2020 22:23

Smallpox vaccination was compulsory in the 19th century.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_Act

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ofwarren · 17/04/2020 22:28

I didn't know that about smallpox vaccine. Interesting!

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WomanIsTaken · 17/04/2020 22:31

As a key worker in education I would seek to get vaccinated once a safe and rigourously tested vaccine became available, preferably after antibody testing, should it turn out that immunity follows infection.
But I am categorically against mandatory vaccinations for anything and anyone, and am horrified at the suggestion that basic rights such as that of accessing education should be curtailed as a response to failure to vaccinate. We are lucky to have the right to refuse unwanted medical intervention in this country; access to public services should not be conditional upon forfeiting this right.

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ofwarren · 17/04/2020 22:40

There are quite a few countries where you can't attend school without a vaccination certificate. The USA is one and I think France and Germany too? I'm not too sure on the finer details.

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