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Reasons why people die when the economy tanks - a list ?

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LaurieFairyCake Fri 10-Apr-20 21:28:32

I keep seeing this phrase 'have to balance length of lockdown with deaths due to recession'

So, how do people die because of recession ?

1. Suicide due to poor mental health because of poverty

And?

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BreathlessCommotion Fri 10-Apr-20 21:32:00

Poverty- not being able to afford heating, enough food. Austerity killed hundreds of thousands of people through poverty.

Seainasive Fri 10-Apr-20 21:32:13

Increased alcohol abuse

BreathlessCommotion Fri 10-Apr-20 21:32:55

The less well you eat and live, the worse your health. This means poor people are more at risk from heart disease, diabetes, mh and hypertension amongst other things.

CarlottaValdez Fri 10-Apr-20 21:34:01

Look at the difference in life expectancy between the poorest and richest areas.

BreathlessCommotion Fri 10-Apr-20 21:34:23

Women in poverty often turn to sex work, which is dangerous. Children often feel pressured to help and end up involved in County lines set ups.

Drug use increases, homelessness increases--not just on the street, but sofa surfing. This has health risks.

Bitofeverything Fri 10-Apr-20 21:34:37

People will put on weight from being stuck at home next to the fridge/less activity than usual. On a national scale, that will have an effect

Gingerkittykat Fri 10-Apr-20 21:36:22

People taking certain psychiatric meds die on average 10 years earlier than the general population due to what they do to the body.

The more people who are stressed and depressed then the more this will happen.

CarlottaValdez Fri 10-Apr-20 21:37:47

More children will die too.

From the Lancet -
Child mortality rates are higher among deprived communities, with poorer children two-and-a-half times more likely to die before they reach adulthood than their peers from affluent families.

catlovingdoctor Fri 10-Apr-20 21:37:56

People losing their jobs; then they can't pay their bills or keep a roof over their heads. Plus struggling to afford adequate nutritious food. This is directly likely to increase risk of death. Additionally, consequent mental illness, depression, and dependence on drugs and alcohol.

Canyousewcushions Fri 10-Apr-20 21:38:42

Right at this minute, reductions in cancer screening and other "non urgent" nhs functions- people will be missing out on treatment that they may not yet know that they need.

Further cuts to the NHS as we need to make up for the damage to the economy and huge borrowing to fund the 80% wage cover and other business support. It'll have to be paid back somehow.

Grasspigeons Fri 10-Apr-20 21:41:51

Asthma can kill, it is also linked to mould spores that are found particularly in poor quality accommodation.

TexanBlueNeck Fri 10-Apr-20 21:43:33

Suicides are probably one if the lower & more direct (easy to measure!)

Ill health through poor (fewer) working choices e.g. drivers working dangerous hours, people taking second jobs

A big one that cannot be accurately measured us the health aspects, physical and mental - heart attacks through stress, obesity through lack of exercise, malnutrition due to having to shop in smaller more expensive shops, not being able to bulk buy to e.g. batch cook a healthy freezer set of meals

Worse life aspirations due to poor education outcomes, very indirect butva huge negative on young lives (negative impact in GDP / economic productivity)

Accidents due to more people being in a situation to warrant their accident type (e.g. a person is killed in a chainsaw accident trimming trees rather than being at work!)

Domestic violence of all kinds

Gender violence (linked to above), including forced marriage (again, linked to self harm and suicide rates)

Lack of support structures in place for at risk children, I'm not referring to free school meals and nutrition but actual direct neglect that would otherwise be spotted during safeguarding activity / oversight at school

Addictions spiralling, not just alcohol but also online gambling and suchlike

BreathlessCommotion Fri 10-Apr-20 21:43:34

All the services that usually help these people will also be cut to save money.

If you have to live in an emergency hostel you won't have proper cooking facilities. Or you might have to live somewhere with a damp problem that causes breathing issues in your children.

Grasspigeons Fri 10-Apr-20 21:46:59

I guess flu and bacterial infections increase when people are tired, cold and malnourished too.

Gwenhwyfar Fri 10-Apr-20 21:49:26

Conditions linked to overcrowding is another one.

CarlottaValdez Fri 10-Apr-20 21:50:48

Are these the sort of things you meant OP?

userxx Fri 10-Apr-20 21:53:09

I don't think there's going to be a recession, I'm thinking more likely a depression.

Oxyiz Fri 10-Apr-20 21:53:55

@Gingerkittycat which ones are those?

OddBoots Fri 10-Apr-20 21:56:33

When the economy tanks then taxes drop and all the services that are paid for through taxation suffer so we have even greater underfunding of medical services, social care, fire service, police service, the forces. It doesn't take too much logic to see how that causes deaths.

That is prolonged when education also worsens so the next generation loose out on a key part of improving out national productivity.

OhClover Fri 10-Apr-20 21:58:14

Increased cancer deaths - not only those currently diagnosed and not having treatment but also those not yet diagnosed due to decreased research etc.

Imperial study put it at 500,000 worldwide after the last recession following the bankers crash.

GeraldTippett Fri 10-Apr-20 22:02:19

Thread not going your way, OP?

LaurieFairyCake Fri 10-Apr-20 23:41:48

That's really helpful, I was struggling to think of everything associated with this

Depression being worse than recession also suggests it will be even more prolonged effects

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Eyewhisker Fri 10-Apr-20 23:48:26

According to the ONS, the richest 20% of men in the UK live nine years longer than the poorest 20%. If there is a depression due to the lockdown, many people will have lower incomes and be less able to afford healthy food and lifestyle. This could have a big impact on UK life expectancy.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthinequalities/bulletins/healthstatelifeexpectanciesbyindexofmultipledeprivationimd/englandandwales2014to2016

Gingerkittykat Fri 10-Apr-20 23:49:48

@Oxyiz Antipsychotics mainly, which are not just used for schizophrenia but anxiety disorders.

They are well known for causing metabolic syndrome, diabetes and heart problems.

Weight gain is also a side effect of many antidepressants and mood stabilisers which of course leads to worse health.

Some light reading here.

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