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we have now had more deaths from covid 19 than China!

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EricaNernie · 04/04/2020 18:00

That is so shocking and awful.
remembering how impressed and worried we were about china building new hospitals almost overnight, and the lockdown
and now it is here.

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Smellbellina · 04/04/2020 18:03

They seem to have a suprisingly low death rate actually in comparison

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EricaNernie · 04/04/2020 18:04

it seems low now, but at the time it was so awful

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Snowflakes1122 · 04/04/2020 18:05

That’s assuming China told the truth.

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EricaNernie · 04/04/2020 18:05

true

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EricaNernie · 04/04/2020 18:06

i mean, fair point @Snowflakes1122

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TheDrsDocMartens · 04/04/2020 18:06

I’m not convinced they were honest but they also did very strict lockdown and behaved unlike here.

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Hagbeth · 04/04/2020 18:07

No we haven’t. The CCP are lying.

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TestBank · 04/04/2020 18:07

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SunshineCake · 04/04/2020 18:08

I don't believe it is as low as they have said.

I think ours will be a horrific number as still people are going out and it is always an essential journey or they can't see any risk.

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Nofunkingworriesmate · 04/04/2020 18:08

I don’t believe China was honest at any point

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mochajoes · 04/04/2020 18:09

I don't believe China's figures

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Norma27 · 04/04/2020 18:09

I'm another who does not believe the Chinese figures.
However, that doesn't take away from the fact so many are dying here.

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JoeySpecial · 04/04/2020 18:09

I do not believe China at all.

They have lied enough already.

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alloutoffucks · 04/04/2020 18:10

WHO say China's figures are accurate.

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mochajoes · 04/04/2020 18:10

Although I do think they will be better at containing it/lockdown since they use draconian measures.

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TheCanterburyWhales · 04/04/2020 18:11

Well, the news coming out of the UK hospitals indicates that more people are dying than are being recorded in the UK as well. Problems with recording etc.
An article referenced on the long running threads yesterday said that some of the deaths in yesterday's figures were from anything up to 10 days ago.

But yes, I don't think anyone doubts that China had more deaths than were announced.

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alloutoffucks · 04/04/2020 18:11

But I am sure that lots of mumsnetters know better than the experts at WHO.

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Stabbitha · 04/04/2020 18:11

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EricaNernie · 04/04/2020 18:11

also we dont as yet have the figures for those who have died without being in hospital.

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safariboot · 04/04/2020 18:12

To be honest all death figures have to be taken with a pinch of salt. Not just China. Care homes worldwide are experiencing multiple deaths and the Covid-19 tests aren't happening, for example in Glasgow. If someone dies and isn't tested, they're not recorded in the statistics.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-52165397

Then there's the argument of whether you count everyone who had Covid-19 when they died, or only those the doctor or coroner believes were killed by the virus.

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Youngatheart00 · 04/04/2020 18:12

WHO wouldn’t get involved politically and challenge any country’s figures

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Raver84 · 04/04/2020 18:12

That's because they lied.

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JasonPollack · 04/04/2020 18:15

Ah, all international relations experts here I see.

The UK is lying about its death rate. Deaths in care homes are not being recorded as part of official figures.

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mochajoes · 04/04/2020 18:17

The WHO said later on January 23 that the outbreak did not yet constitute a public emergency of international concern and there was "no evidence" of the virus spreading between humans outside of China.

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alloutoffucks · 04/04/2020 18:18

@Youngatheart00 Except WHO made public statements that after much checking they thought China's figures were accurate.

OP everyone will pile on this thread to say China's figures are totally wrong and WHO the actual experts are also wrong. That is because if you accept that WHO is right, then you also have to accept the UK government have totally ballsed this up.

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