I'm 32 and not ready to die - anyone else care to demonstrate it's not just older people this will hit hardest?

[Helenshielding]

I keep seeing posts by people saying they dont think we should be on lockdown to protect older people who will "die next year anyway" or similar.

Here's the thing, over 70s are not "old" these days. People can live well into their 80s, 90s and 100s now.

I'm 32, I've survived cancer (which is now clear- it is not a case of it being controlled, it's been gone for 10 years), I happen to have some lung damage. I dont know what my life expectancy is, but I know it's not 33.

So if you're moaning about socially distancing etc for older adults, stop. You're doing it to prevent deaths of all ages. Younger people with no underlying conditions are dying of this virus.

Stay home. Shut up. Stop moaning. We will all get through this a hell of a lot quicker.

[Bagelsandbrie]

Yes I feel the same. I am 39 and have health conditions but these are usually well managed and I have two children who need me. I am not ready to go anywhere and I’m fed up with people inferring it’s somehow okay for those who are older or who have health conditions to pop off. It really isn’t!

[CuppaZa]

Well said OP. Fed up of the absolute selfish, inhuman attitude from a lot of people. They have shown their shocking and unbelievable lack of empathy and human nature in the worst way.
Stay the fuck at home. Stop moaning. Stop flouncing the rules and potentially killing others. We are all in this

[Helenshielding]

Glad it's not just me. I know its hard, but it's not fun for us either and its not just for our benefit!

[nocoolnamesleft]

This is a bit outing...
I'm 47. I work fulltime for the NHS.
I have scarring in one lung and bronchiectasis in the other. I have recurrent chest infections. I have hypertension. I have had myocarditis, which left me with heart failure. I have an impaired immune system. I recently had cancer.

I'd quite like to not die.

[Helenshielding]

you're not alone.

[Hannah021]

Contracting the virus, and dying from it are two different things.
Age matters in survival rate. But We all can get it, regardless of age...
older ppl struggle to fight it more, which is why they have higher death rate

[coachman]

My DH is over 70. He's fit, well, working full time and not ready to die. Some of the comments on Mumsnet about older people have actually reduced me to tears.

I'm in my 60s and not ready to die either.

[CuppaZa]

@nocoolnamesleft if that doesn’t stop someone moaning about ‘human rights’ being taken away, nothing will. Stay safe and well x

[moita]

Yes. My friend's daughter is 4 - has extensive lung damage due to being born very premature. She's got many years ahead of her if people stick to the rules.

[valentinevalentine]

It does bring out the worst in people I agree. But I am at the 'flouncing the rules' typo. You brought a little joy to my day

[FluffyAragog]

Completely agree. I'm sure people don't mean it to sound the way it does but even when you talk about "only" the old, that's still a person! I'm 30 with an autoimmune condition, I take multiple immunosuppressants and I'm therefore in the "extremely vulnerable" group. The letter I got telling me to stay inside at all times even told me to prepare a hospital bag. Like it's inevitable. I have 2 small children, I'm not ready to die and without this virus or some freak accident my life expectancy is pretty much the same as most healthy people.

[user1493413286]

Yep and people with diabetes have long life expectancies but are vulnerable to this.

[Frenchw1fe]

My df is 89 and very fit for his age. He’s also a plane journey away so I desperately want him to stay healthy so I can visit when all of this is over.
He’s being very good at staying in although he hates the evenings on his own.
So yes everyone, stay at home.

[SFCA]

Couldn’t agree more. My DC are 2 and 3, both well within the extremely vulnerable bracket but life threatening not life limited, they are expected to live normal life expectancy.

Although my grandparents are in their 80s but they are still my grandparents, I don’t want them to die either, nobody deserves to die alone and scared.

[Littleninja1]

Well said OP.

My parents are so active, both volunteer at multiple charities and my dad is even keen to get CV so he can start helping the "old folk" again. Many MNetters class him as the old folk

As someone who is recovering from suspected CV, I can tell you any one of these selfish sods declaring missing their baby group is against their human rights is in for a shock when they get this thing and realise how fucking precious it is just to be able to breathe. Reading all their petty complaints while I felt I was suffocating and others are actually suffocating to death... There are no words.

And also can half of you stop banging on about mental health when what you mean is doing what you want when you want? I've had anxiety for a decade and I'll take the damage to my mental health a hundred times over rushing to A&E because I was drowning in my own lungs. Life has never felt so precious. Some people have actual awful mental health problems. Lots of you don't, you're just not empathetic to others and damn selfish.

[Mummyoflittledragon]

My friend is fit and healthy. He even had a heart valve fitted recently. He isn’t ready to die in his mid 80’s. I’d rather he didn’t suffer when his time comes, let’s face it, we all would want the same. I’m late 40’s and not had much luck with my health. I’m not ready to die. My dd needs me. And this is all complete bs after the death of a 12 yo girl in France earlier today.

[alloutoffucks]

I am in the shielded group and am 50. My life expectancy is just a few years short of normal at 80.

[lexi873]

Completely agree. The amount of posts I’ve seen from people saying “oh but I thought only the people with underlying conditions died” like that was somehow alright then and only now are they concerned as stories are emerging of totally healthy people dying.

[Gin96]

The chances of you dying from this if you are under 40 is very rare, it’s 0.2%
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

[Gin96]

There haven’t been any deaths between the age 0-9 so far.

[BelleSausage]

The Guardian has a collection obituaries to the dead. Many with years to live if it hadn’t had been for the virus.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/not-ready-to-go-tributes-paid-to-uk-first-named-victims-of-coronavirus

[Shmabel]

Completely agree OP. I also dislike the way whenever the death toll is revealed on the news etc, it is made clear "most had underlying health conditions". I imagine they'd say it about my dad who is living a full life (well, before lockdown) and expects to for many years to come. These health conditions are often very common: type 2 diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure etc.

[BelleSausage]

@Gin96

Yes, there have. A one year old girl died in LA

[BelleSausage]

Also, some of these underlying health conditions include, obesity (a large percentage of the population and bowels diseases (again, a lot of people).

I am obese with a BMI of 32. I have no idea if I could be one of the percentage of people in my age group with that complication to die. It is Russian roulette.

[Michelleoftheresistance]

Extended family member lost day before yesterday. 44, no underlying health issues. I'm disabled and chronically ill, 47. Also not feeling that expendable thanks.

Besides which, this is less about everyone being inconvenienced to protect those statistically much more likely to need ICU care and all for our benefit: it's about getting us out of the equation as much as possible so that there's the full ICU/ventilation kit available for everyone else who becomes ill enough to need it. In Italy, no one over 60 is being ventilated. Who is taking up all the ventilators? It's not the elderly.