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All healthcare should get a pay rise

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jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 12:24:35

Hi
I would like to get peoples views on all healthcare staff to get a pay rise.
Especially nhs staff.
I work in the nhs as a nursing assistant and I am really scared of catching it.

I have 2 daughters who I've kept off school as they are asthmatic.

We have been told unless we are sick with the cornavirus then we still have to go work regardless.

What is everyone's opinion

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ElizabethMountbatten Wed 18-Mar-20 12:25:52

Of course they should. Not just because of this though! I personally feel all of their salaries should be doubled, but where is the money going to come from for that?

jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 13:01:01

@ElizabethMountbatten
This is the problem the money won't come from the government..

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mrsm43s Wed 18-Mar-20 13:05:41

I think front line NHS staff who are actively helping with the Coronavirus situation should be given a bonus (and some extra holiday if that's logistically possible) once the situation has calmed down.

I'm not sure that all NHS staff should get a payrise.

jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 13:08:04

@mrsm43s
I understand what you are saying but with once all the ICU wards and infection wards are full, the nhs have to take in patients with the virus and isolate them in the ward.

I work on a gastro ward but I was called down to help out in ICU.. now that's me putting myself in danger.

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AnneJeanne Wed 18-Mar-20 13:11:28

My niece is a nurse in Florida and they’ve been told if they get the virus they must take earned time off, so basically their holiday/sick leave entitlement.

Floralnomad Wed 18-Mar-20 13:11:50

Surely if you are looking after people with Covid -19 then you will be wearing appropriate PPE equipment so you are no more at risk than when you are looking after people with other contagious diseases which is a daily occurrence .

Lifeisabeach09 Wed 18-Mar-20 13:15:56

Surely if you are looking after people with Covid -19 then you will be wearing appropriate PPE equipment so you are no more at risk than when you are looking after people with other contagious diseases which is a daily occurrence.

^^In an ideal world.

Not enough PPE available and a lot of it (such as facial masks) is inadequate.

jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 13:16:55

@Floralnomad
What you need to understand is this virus is more contagious then any other diseases that we experience. I.e neuro virus. Unless you work in the nhs it is hard. We can't work from home.

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jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 13:17:50

@Lifeisabeach09
Exactly... we don't have enough PPE as it is.

Like you say that's in an ideal world

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Floralnomad Wed 18-Mar-20 17:17:20

OP I was a registered nurse for 30 yrs and have nursed TB patients / cdiff patients and many more contagious people. I’m sorry but you know the risks when you sign up for the job to a degree and I would suggest perhaps nursing is not for you long term . If you don’t have adequate PPE then that needs bringing up with your managers . It’s always been hard working for the NHS .

TailSpinIntoInsanity Wed 18-Mar-20 17:34:09

Floralnomad you speak as if the managers give a fuck.
And there are vaccines for TB and c.diff is unpleasant but treatable. Not the same at all.
Nobody "knew the risk" when they joined the NHS even 6 weeks ago.

PlanDeRaccordement Wed 18-Mar-20 17:36:39

I agree with you Floral.
They knew the risk. They just didn’t think it would happen on their watch.
It’s no different from joining the military in peacetime and then complaining when a war happens and you might have to go to the front.

Gronky Wed 18-Mar-20 17:41:23

They will receive overtime pay.

TailSpinIntoInsanity Wed 18-Mar-20 17:46:10

Gronky there is no OT pay in the NHS. You get your normal rate. And I can promise you that nobody wants to be doing any planned OT anyway.

Gronky Wed 18-Mar-20 17:51:55

Gronky there is no OT pay in the NHS

www.nhsemployers.org/tchandbook/part-2-pay/section-3-overtime-payments

Gronky Wed 18-Mar-20 18:02:51

And there are vaccines for TB and c.diff is unpleasant but treatable. Not the same at all.

Sorry, but the TB vaccine is given primarily to prevent TB-related meningitis in children (which it works well against). It's less effective overall in adults and the ineffectiveness is compounded for respiratory infections. C. diff carries a pretty high mortality rate in those infected, even with treatment so I would say they are both examples of extant risks to healthcare staff.

Cornettoninja Wed 18-Mar-20 18:51:02

Full disclaimer - I’m not a nurse - but some of you need to give your head a wobble.

Who exactly signed up to nurse through a global pandemic? This hasn’t happened in a single living persons lifetime. There are shortages of all the things that exist to protect people prepared to work with contagious diseases.

Anyone working on the front line during this deserve, at the absolute least, our full and unreserved respect.

@PlanDeRaccordement - at least the army will provide boots and a gun.

jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 18:57:42

@Floralnomad
I'm sorry but I clearly don't t the point... yes there are other infections but they are all treatable. I have 2 children that are asthmatic.. if you a what you claim to be then answer this.
What am I suppose to if I catch it, bring it home and my children(who are asthmatic) catches it????

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jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 18:58:29

@PlanDeRaccordement
I don't think anyone gets the point.

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TailSpinIntoInsanity Wed 18-Mar-20 19:04:03

Gronky that's not the reality. The reality is that the NHS bays "bank" money rather than OT. The bank money is the same rate as a normal shift. At least everywhere I have ever worked. Somebody from a different trust may have different experiences.

Zacharyezrarawlings Wed 18-Mar-20 19:07:52

floralomad nice idea. We have no PPE. we almsoyt certainly have to look after one or CV19 positive patients at some point. some of that care will be very physical and ivolve close contact. I repeat we have no PPE. No idea when/if we will get any. Because of my specialty my patients may not be able to be nursed ona mores specialised virology ward so will have to stay on our ward. i repeat we have no PPE....you get the idea?!

jadey0885 Wed 18-Mar-20 19:09:46

Thank you at least people have sense of what I'm saying

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Gronky Wed 18-Mar-20 19:10:37

The reality is that the NHS bays "bank" money rather than OT.

Is that similar to flexitime in the private sector and is the the time given back and equal number of hours or additional time? If you're working more than 37.5hrs a week, it seems quite illegal for extra pay to not be given.

runningtogetskinny Wed 18-Mar-20 19:11:48

I appreciate where you're coming from but there are other areas in similar situations, I work in a residential home for children aged 13-17, none of them can go anywhere else as there are legal orders preventing them from living with their families. My staff team all have to care for the young people on a shift system 24/7/365, they don't have specific health issues and we're not NHS workers. One has already self isolated as she feels she has symptoms, were leaving meals at her bedroom door but no other measures in place. We will continue working no matter how depleted the team gets, the kids won't be going anywhere

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