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Hello, so it looks like i do not ovulte & "clomid" is the suggested solution. Can any one tell me anything about this please?

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sunburntats Sat 15-Aug-09 15:18:19

I am brand new to it all, so be gentle. I have seen the Clomid thread but it is HUGE.

So had bloods done on day 2 & day 21. progesterone levels on day 21 were 15.

Could this be low because possibly it was a day either side of day 21? (AF came on day 27 that month)

How can they suggest drugs on 1 blood result? Should i not do a series of blood to make 100% sure?

What will clomid do? I will google, but want YOUR personal experience of its values, side effects, disadvantages etc....please.

Why would a person NOT ovulate yet have horrendous ov pains and a regular period? What is going on in there?

DHs swimmers are fineaccording to sample results.

Sorry its long, but this has never occured to me....that ov is not happening.

beanieb Sat 15-Aug-09 15:28:59

I think you should probably ask for a repeat blood test before they put you straight onto clomid as sometimes there are months when a woman just doesn't ovulate. Have you ever used Ovulation predictor kids and are you aware of the other signs (Changes in Cervical Mucus) that you should expect when ovulating?

I am on my second round of 50mg of clomid at the momet. My tests all came back saying I am ovulating but the Clinic (IVF Wales) have put me on clomid to 'give me a boost' as I have been trying for 2 years.

I got pregnant on my first round of clomid but sadly miscarried (Not the Clomid's fault) so after a break I am trying again and hoping that the 50 mg works as I don't really want to be put on a higher dose.

As for symptoms... well, mine have not been too bad. I get hot flushes while I am on it but it's bearable and as I am now taking the Clomid at night I feel ok most of the time. I have had a couple of headaches and also be a bit bad tempered/miserable but I am not sure if this is just because I am feeling down about being back on the TTC train after the miscarriage.

I have been drinking lots of water as Clomid can thicken the cervical mucus and after I take my last pill (tonight) I will start taking 2 spoonfuls of this as it's proven to thin the mucus and that helps the sperm on the journey.

I would say don't be too scared of Clomid, if you are not ovulating it has a very high success rate for getting women to ovulate, but I would ask for another test perhaps as the cycle they tested you on may have been and anovulatory one

Also - how long is your cycle as it's not always true that a woman ovulates bang on day 14... sorry if you know this already and good luck.

OracleInaCoracle Sat 15-Aug-09 15:30:40

hi sunburntats, being a day out shouldnt affect your blood results, but not sure about the validity of prescribing clomid when your periods are regular. howeverclomid does affect evrything, it kind of gives your hormones a kick up the jacksie. have you had any other tests done? a HSG? or lap and dye?

beanieb Sat 15-Aug-09 15:32:41

oh - and as for what clomid does... apparently it basically tricks your brain by blocking hormones and this means that your body starts to work harder to release eggs. There's a very small increased chance of a multiple birth with clomid.

here's something I found on teh internet which sums it up...

"in essence it appears that Clomid fools the body into believing that the estrogen level is low. This altered feedback information causes the hypothalamus (an area of the brain) to make and release more gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) which in turn causes the pituitary to make and release more FSH and LH. More follicle stimulating hormone and more luteinizing hormone should result in the release of one or more mature eggs - ovulation."

OracleInaCoracle Sat 15-Aug-09 15:33:20

oh, and im on 4th cycle (3rd of 50mg) and side effects have been pretty rank. my hair and skin have been greasy and spotty, ive had diarrohea and the rage.... dh is very gald this is our last month!

sunburntats Sat 15-Aug-09 15:44:48

Thanks very much.

I have had a whole raft of blood tests (Cariotyping, fsh etc)

Periods are regular, i have a 6 year old, but have had 4 mcs, taking 2-3 years to get pregnant with a year-18 months between mcs.

So problems are 2 fold, subfertility and repeated mcs.

I jsut think that they are very quick to start me on medication.

OracleInaCoracle Sat 15-Aug-09 16:03:16

ah, clomid can raise your progesterone and more cons are prescribing it in cases of rmc (ive been ttc for 4y and have had 9mc's in total, counting cp's too, and an ep) when do you start it and at what dose? and have they done no checks on your fallopian tubes etc?

sunburntats Sat 15-Aug-09 16:07:08

No, nothing like that.

dont know if i fancy that tbh.

OracleInaCoracle Sat 15-Aug-09 16:16:08

they really should rule out blocakges etc before prescribing clomid. you my have endometritis or PCOS. which clinic are you with?

sunburntats Sat 15-Aug-09 16:23:59

not with any clinic.
I asked to be referred after my last mc in April to a gynea person.
I was, but have so far failed to meet with him, its always his Drs that see me.

during my last mc, i asked them to look at my overies with the scanner, they did and said that they looked absolutely fine....presumably pcos would show up as overies with cysts/abnormalities on scanning?

beanieb Sat 15-Aug-09 17:01:10

Have to agree about the HSG, I had one before they prescribed Clomid. Sorry to hear about your miscarriages.

sunburntats Sat 15-Aug-09 17:05:08

sorry, whats HCG?

beanieb Sat 15-Aug-09 17:13:10

The HSG is a hysterosalpingogram, basically just a procedure to check for blockages in your fallopian tubes. some info here

sunburntats Sat 15-Aug-09 17:19:07

ooh no GA needed either, i would not mind that, just to make sure that my giblets are all where they should be and are clear.....

beanieb Sat 15-Aug-09 18:20:26

I have had it done and I found it ok, no pain.

amelied Sat 15-Aug-09 21:00:29

Hi Beanieb

Just a quick question about the robitussen - do you take 2 spoonfuls per day and what days do you take it?

I have taken it in the past but never knew what days to start and stop taking it.

Thanks in advance.
x

beanieb Sat 15-Aug-09 21:26:55

I am a bit new at this too. Last month I just started taking it at the same time but I have read on the internet that you should start taking it the day after your last clomid tablet. All a bit of a learning curve for me too.

Also I think you have to take 2 spoons 3 or more times a day, so quite a lot.

Hopefully someone else who knows a bit more will know more.

amelied Mon 17-Aug-09 23:32:39

Thanks Beanieb hopefully someone will come along and explain the days and length of time we should take Robitussen -anyone??

AttilaTheMeerkat Tue 18-Aug-09 08:34:27

sunburntats

Who has suggested the clomid usage?. I would be wary of taking such a thing without a firm diagnosis beforehand as it is not always suitable for women with ovulatory problems.

Given your history of mcs you should be seeing the main gynae doctor at the subfertility unit and regularly as well. Continuity of care is vitally important.
I would also be mentioning to my GP that you have not managed so far to actually see the main gynae doc at the clinic. In such circs I would be looking to be seen at another NHS unit. It is fair to say that some units are far better than others (this also applies equally to private practice as well).

The cystic follicles associated with PCOS can and do disappear only to be replaced by further cystic follicles. It can take a skilled sonographer to spot them.

Blood tests should be repeated; progesterone is only part of the story here. Would not have thought that the day 21 result you have is low because it was done not exactly on day 21. Also they should be doing repeated blood tests to see if there are any auto immune problems.

Have they also done any day 2 tests to measure and importantly compare your LH and FSH levels?. My guess is that your LH and FSH levels are also out of sync; if these two hormone levels are awry then ovulation will be affected. It is also quite possible to have periods without ovulating.

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