Cervical Ectropion/Erosion bleed every month before period

[LosingHope123]

Hi, I'm new to all this but have been searching for hours for an answer and couldn't find one so thought I'd ask the questions myself!

I've been ttc for nearly two years, with a missed miscarriage six months in. It's now been over a year since that dreaded day and I am slowly going mad over why I now don't seem to be getting pregnant. I have been diagnosed with a Cervical Ectropion/Erosion and it seems that about 4/5 days before my period is due, I get some brown bleeding which is caused by this. What I want to know is, did anyone else have this sort of pattern and if so, did they have the same bleeding the month they got a BFP? I don't understand whether this brown bleeding before my period means it's definitely on its way or if it would still happen if I were pregnant. So in other words, i started bleeding today and I want to know if I should lose hope this month or not. Please help, I am having a really sad day today and would really appreciate any help/advice.

Thanks :-)

[YouStoleMyHat]

Hi losing I had to reply to your post, I know exactly what you mean about feeling sad month after month. I've got two DC now, but took a long time TTC. I also have a cervical erosion, IME it definitely doesn't mean you're out because I bled during both pregnancies with it, starting before AF was due. Although it is worrying hopefully it will give you some hope that you're not out yet! Good luck and hope you get your BFP soon.

[Jessewalt]

Hi there. I also spot before AF is due - usually 2-3 days and been ttc#1 for 5 months. I don't think I have an erosion, but if you do, an erosion itself should not be stopping you from conceiving.
Have you been to see your gp to initiate some investigations?
I hope you are lucky soon. I searched for old threads on this recently and there were positive stories about people getting positive tests in cycles with similar spotting. Try searching for these.
Keep us posted!

[LosingHope123]

Hi both, thank you so much for replying. I just posted this morning as I was feeling a little desperate but i didn't actually think anyone would reply! Thank you.

YouStoleMyHat, did you also have a cervical ectropion and was this the cause of your pre-Af bleeding? Could you go into a bit more detail (if you wouldn't mind!)?

Jessewalt - thank you for your help. I'm also told it's not a danger to fertility but I do think that sometimes it doesn't give my body a chance to get pregnant because I start bleeding about a week after ovulating which is just so annoying.

I'm going to the doctor next week to talk it through as I have so many questions but I really appreciate your support. The last year has been so horrendous and I just want my happy ending! x

[YouStoleMyHat]

I'm sure you will get your happy ending soon and it will be so worth it when you do.

Yes, ectropion and erosion have both been mentioned to me, TBH I'm not really sure what the difference is! Either/ both were the cause of the bleeding, Drs never really sure. Anyway it started as pre AF spotting, then a proper 'period' at AF time (obviously it wasn't a period), then several random bleeds throughout pregnancy ranging from spotting to full on heavy bleeding. Always from the cervix, nothing to do with baby. Hope that helps a bit!

[YouStoleMyHat]

Oh I meant to say, as the bleeding was no where near baby hopefully that doesn't mean your bleeding would make it a problem to get pregnant? It seems that the two things (womb lining/ AF bleeding and cervical bleeding) are totally separate.

[LosingHope123]

Thank you thank you thank you. I just needed one other person to tell me that they had this bleeding and still managed to get BFP the same month. At least now there is still a little bit of hope. The only thing that worries me is that it sounds like you only had it for one month (the month you got BFP) whereas mine happens every month - so it's like a pattern and the result of this pattern every month is AF. But hey, who knows! Thank you again.

If anyone else has been in a similar situation then please feel free to post below!

[LosingHope123]

PS a cervical erosion and cervical ectropion are the same things but some people use different terms for some reason. Very confusing! x

[YouStoleMyHat]

Glad it's given you some hope. I wasn't clear sorry, I've had random bleeding from the ectropion at other times (when I wasn't pregnant) but not every month. Fingers crossed for you.

[LosingHope123]

Great, thanks so much for clarifying. Such a frustrating time but I'm sure I will get through it and I know I'm not alone :-) xx

[Jelly84]

I have this too!! Been ttc for about 6 months and every month like clockwork I get spotting which starts over a week before my period. It starts really light and pale brown Mixtec in with cm and only there occasionally when I wipe. It gradually gets darker in colour as my period comes closer but never falls into a panty liner. Then I have a 1 day period with some red blood/ mostly brown and that's it! It's so strange! I got diagnosed with a cervical ectropion at my smear a couple if months ago and the doctor was positive it was causing the cyclical spotting. It's so annoying and frustrating each month when I see it and always makes me think I'm out. Not had a bfp yet and starting the spotting today so like you am wondering whether this would happen still if I was pregnant. I did read that raising progesterone levels in the LP can cause cervical cells to get bigger hence why the spotting is only in the second half of the cycle. My temps continue to go up and stay high throughout the spotting so it doesn't seem like it should effect a pregnancy but it just seems like something can't be right!!!!X

[ouryve]

The ectropion shouldn't be causing any problems with fertility. Mine has a tendency to bleed after a lot of sex (which I'm guessing you've been doing!) so the timing of the bleeding shouldn't make any difference.

[ouryve]

Just for reassurance about the ectropion and its effects on fertility, I got pregnant, first time, 3 times.

[LosingHope123]

Hi Jelly84! No offence but it's so good to hear I'm not alone! Yours sounds just like what happens to me so clearly it's 'normal' for an ectropion and we are not alone.

Ouryve, thank you so much for your reassurance. My question is, did you bleed even when you got a BFP? Or did you bleed only on the months you got your period? Mine actually doesn't bleed after intercourse, only a week before my period which is odd because after intercourse is when it is most likely to bleed! I've had really positive feedback on whether it affects fertility - it doesn't apparently - but wondered if as soon as I see the spotting a week or so before my period whether I'm out for that month or whether I can carrying on hoping. I've spent the last three days in tears! Lovely youstolemyhat (above) was very reassuring but the more reassurance the better I suppose, for me and for jelly84! Xxxx

[Jelly84]

Haha we'll go crazy from this spotting! Mine never bleeds after sex either which goes against what most say about ectropions. It's cyclical bleeding at the same time each month leading up to the period. I think it correlates and reacts to increasing progesterone from looking at my charts and temps. Good to hear for some if you if hasn't caused problems getting pregnant Xxxx

[LosingHope123]

Hi all, just to say, I'm out this month. Got AF this morning. And it definitely is AF - I've got cramps and the blood has turned from brown to red so that's it for me this time. I really thought we had it this month as we went on holiday and totally relaxed. Never mind. Good luck to everyone else though and keep me posted on your news! Fingers crossed for lots of BFPs!! xx

[marieclare168]

I had an ectropion/erosion and had exactly the same stress as you every time- is this real bleeding and what would it still happen if I was pregnant? I got it cauterised 3 years ago and had no nuisance bleeding since so would highly recommend. GP should be able to arrange this especially if you explain how stressful and demoralising it is. Effectively means you are bleeding 2 out of 4 weeks which you shouldn't have to put up with even if not TTc. I did get pregnant very soon after but it was a different situation as having IVF but it did make it less stressful not eyeing the dreaded brown stuff.

[marieclare168]

*seeing.

[ouryve]

Sorry to here your new, losing.

I actually bled profusely, post ovulation, the month that DS1 was conceived. Lots of red blood. It was actually quite alarming, as it was far more than the usual spotting, so despite having also been ill with what I thought was a bladder infection and feeling really tired, I was quite surprised when I couldn't face a plate of tomatoes the day before my period would have been due.

[ouryve]

Hear. News.

[tired]

[Jelly84]

Losing hope: did you go to the doctors? If so what did they say?xX

[Hopemummi]

Hi, I'm 29 been ttc for 12 months. Since coming off the pill I've always had a 'show' - spotting a day or so before my period starts. I've asked all my girlfriends and most of them do too. Try using ovulation monitor- has helped me realise I don't ovulate until day 20- much later than average14 days.

[Rachykay]

Hi!
This is 6 months on from the date Losing first posted and I was wondering how you are doing now? I am exactly in the same boat as you and can absolutely understand the dread of the bleeding 2 out of 4 weeks of my cycle due to Cervical ectropion. I'm after some hope that you can still get pregnant as I've been trying unsucessfully for the last 18mths and slowly going mad.

[ivHADit12345]

Hi I know this thread hasn't been posted on for a while! But I'm in exactly the same situation as losinghope, every month at least 6 days before my period is due I get red spotting, most of the time mixed with cm. I'm 33 & I've been trying to conceive #3 for the last 3 years after comming off BC I had one mc at 10weeks last year! My CE has recently started to bleed more frequently even mid cycle and post BD now! I just wanted to know if any one else with this condition has conceived since last posting on here and is there anything we can do about it? Any information would be much appreciated! Af is due in 6 days time and the wait every month is killing me, but the spotting is just plain annoying! Good luck to all ttc xx

[Hopefloats123]

I'm so happy to see this topic. I have searched the internet off and on for years looking for answers but haven't found anyone who has bleeding from the cervix so it's a relief to see people with the same issue! I spot about a week before my period, just like losinghope123, it's like clockwork. I feel the same dread when I see it. It's gets heavier the closer i get to starting my period, it's browninsh and sometimes brownish red. Sometimes it's really dark brown. I have to wear a panty liner. It only happens about a week after ovulation. I've been ttc for almost 4 years. I didn't even know it was coming from my cervix until one of my fertility dr's looked and confirmed that's where the bleeding was coming from. She didn't call it cervical erosion, she just confirmed it was coming from my cervix and said not worry about it, that it doesn't effect fertility. She suspected it was happening due to a LEEP procedure I had 10 years ago. She mentioned having it cauterized but I've had it cauterized after a hysteroscopy and it didn't stop the monthly spotting. I asked why it always happens after ovulation and she said becasue the cervix has hormone receptors on it and was guessing it's effected by progesterone. Oddly enough I learned through IVF that the spotting stops when I used vaginal progesterone suppositories. For some reason the cervix stopped bleeding when it received progesterone directly (as opposed to oral progesterone or topical). I've tried oral and topical progesterone just to see as an experiment if the spotting would stop but it doesn't, only with the vaginal suppository, so for whatever reason the cervix stops bleeding when it has vaginal progesterone. My dr said the hormone receptors on the cervix respond to it for some reason, but still she said it has nothing to do with fertility. I never believed her becasue the spotting just didn't seem normal. I've since gone on and seen 3 other RE's, had 3 failed IVF's. No other dr's have had an explanation for the spotting from my cervix, she is the only one that explained it to me that way. But it makes sense I guess becasue my progesteone levels always test normal and when I chart with BBT they stay high...just In regular cycle when I don't use progesterone. So it's a relief to see im not alone!! But it still makes me wonder "why" what's wrong with me? Every dr has told me the spotting is nothing to worry about and it doesn't effect fertility. In my case they say it's probably an egg quality issue. Anyway, thank you for bringing up this topic, I really appreciate it! Hope people are still checking this discussion. :)

[Hopefloats123]

I thought I would also add, that this spotting started about 4 years ago, when I turned 35. The spotting happens after intercourse too, but only after ovulation when the spotting normally strarts (about a week after ovulation, one week before my period). Then once I do get my period it has normal red flow but my period only last for 1.5-2 days.