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Agnus Castus - any success?

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jaykay987 Wed 31-Jul-13 13:04:30

Hello

I current have cycles ranging from 35-39. I have read Agnus Castus can shorten cycles. However most of the forums I've seen it discussed on - people had crazy long cycles (70-100+ days).

I just wondered if anyone had tried using it to reduce long ish cycles like mine?

I don't want to mess up my cycles, as they are regular - but if it could give me 12 chances to ttc this year, rather than 10 - then I'd like to try.

Any feedback?

blueamber Wed 31-Jul-13 13:15:41

If your cycles are regular, even though they're long, I wouldn't take AC. In women with regular cycles, this can actually delay ovulation.

My experience is that I started taking it after coming off the pill and not having had a period for two months. My body did gear up for ovulation every 28 days, but the hormonal surge wasn't strong enough. When I took AC my body started gearing up again after 28 days, but this time the whole process was a lot longer and even though I finally ovulated it was two weeks later than it should have been. So I don't know if my body would have naturally ovulated and the AC delayed it, or if it did help to ovulate even though it delayed it.

OhBuggerMe Wed 31-Jul-13 13:17:22

Do not take this. I did, against all advice and it gave me a 142 day cycle!!

Its a very strong herb and shouldn't be used unless done so under the supervision of an expert.

Search the threads and you'll find other people with horror stories. Also agnus castus won't increase your chances of getting pregnant. it doesn't make you more fertile.

RaRaZ Wed 31-Jul-13 13:34:36

Ahhhh! Depends on the person: I swear by it and I'd say exactly the opposite of the two posters above. I've used it for cramps for years (only thing that works), and now I use it to help keep my cycles regular as well. They're the most regular now that they've ever been, and my cycle length is shortening rather than lengthening (which is good in my case). I'm seeing an accupuncturist for fertility/mc avoidance, and she also deals with herbs. She said it's good to take if your CM isn't ideal for conception, and for regulating cycles and promoting ovulation. I've got pg on it twice so it obviously doesn't stop me ovulating, and I'm pretty sure I still am ovulating now I'm using it more - but having my Day 21 bloods taken in just over an hour so I'll let you know! I'd say try it and judge for yourself - nothing it can do is undoable if you don't like it.

eurochick Wed 31-Jul-13 14:31:42

I took it alongside acu and something helped make my cycles very regular (they weren't that bad but slightly long - 31-32 days - and Chinese medicine likes everything to be as clockwork as possible.

KittyKK Wed 31-Jul-13 15:09:50

Hi - I've recently started taking Vitex (Agnus Castus) drops each morning. Also to ensure that I've got a regular cycle. Seemed to work with bringing AF on time!

Now in 2ww, so I'll let you know if it "works" smile

lj123 Wed 31-Jul-13 15:39:12

I used it even though my periods are regular and got a BFP the same month I started using it.
Unfortunately my pregnancy was ectopic, not saying that will happen but not sure I can muster up the courage to take it again, although temptation is there just for the BFP satisfaction as haven't conceived since my ectopic.

jaykay987 Wed 31-Jul-13 15:50:34

Thanks for all the responses.

Very varied. Can't make my mind up!

FrankelInFoal Wed 31-Jul-13 18:10:29

My advice would be never take anything without professional advice. If you are genuinely interested in taking AC then consult a herbal practitioner. Self-medication can be very dangerous.

RaRaZ Wed 31-Jul-13 22:00:20

Consulting a herbal practitioner is no bad idea, but potentially expensive. I think this is something that can be used without too much worry so long as you are careful and stick to the recommended dose. If it does fuck up your cycle, stop using it and your cycle will go back to normal. If you think it might help, don't be afraid to try it. It's a plant. Yeah, it could do harm, but so can many of the vegetables we eat - in terms of fertility at least. Peas in large amounts aren't good for your fertility, and fennel can cause uterine cramping, but can bring on early mc, but no-one would suggest it was dangerous to eat them.

pxmx Thu 01-Aug-13 15:06:43

Apologies for hijacking the thread i have been thinking of trying this myself have been ttc since xmas. My first day of lmp was fri 26th july and this is now cycle 9 for us so, i'm up for trying any thing at this stage. My cycles vary from 31 to 37 days and i'm hoping angus catus will help. My question is when do i start taking it?? I understand this might not work but i'm willing to try, if it doesnt agree with me i will stop but it's surely worth one shot.

jaykay987 Thu 01-Aug-13 15:39:11

From what I've read there are several opinions on the timings.

Majority suggest cd1-ovulation.

MissStrawberry Thu 01-Aug-13 15:40:53

I haven't noticed any huge changes in my cycle when on it but I was taking it more for PMT reasons. It does help for that as long as you take them every day.

pxmx Thu 01-Aug-13 16:21:22

well misssstrawberry im def gonna try it so, since i came off the pill i'm like a fire breathing dragon at pmt time every month dh will be a very happy boy if it works for that alone!!

MissStrawberry Thu 01-Aug-13 17:42:11

Good luck!

RaRaZ Fri 02-Aug-13 01:43:05

You can start it any time :-)

FrankelInFoal Fri 02-Aug-13 09:34:01

You should stop taking AC as soon as ovulation occurs, or at the very least the second you suspect you might be pregnant. There is evidence to suggest that AC causes mini contractions in your uterus which will dislodge a developing embryo.

Of course it is entirely up to you, but I'd say again, you really ought to consult someone before taking anything.

RaRaZ Fri 02-Aug-13 10:28:08

Sorry, I meant to say that - but at 2am I wasn't really on the ball any more! I used to take it right through my cycle, but I've since read wat Frankel just said and now I only take it during my period and up till the day I get my Peak Fertility reading.

pxmx Fri 02-Aug-13 12:00:15

Thanks for all the advice and sorry again for barging in op! I'm going to get some tomorrow and will start straight away and stop as soon as i get a pos opk. I'm not expecting miracles but its surely worth a try smile

jaykay987 Fri 02-Aug-13 14:20:39

Not at all! Is been an interesting convo!

KittyKK Tue 06-Aug-13 16:11:45

Ladies - just to follow up on my post last week...Agnus Castus worked for me first cycle....I was diagnosed as "slightly polycystic" during recent smear test (private hospital, so test included ultrasound of ovaries).

Usually only had 10 periods each year. Got BFP today, so I would say there's nothing to lose by trying AC!

jaykay987 Tue 06-Aug-13 16:25:51

Kitty - how long did you take it?

I am waiting for AF and was planning on waiting til cd1. When did you start?

Buddhagirl Thu 08-Aug-13 14:32:36

Just brought these tablets, I'm 4 cycles off the patch and my last cycle was 14 bloody days. Hoping it will settle them as hoping to start ttc in January.

PinkParsnips Thu 08-Aug-13 14:40:52

AC seemed to do the trick for me. I've got pcos and my cycles varied from 25-77 days. I took the tablets rather than the drops and my cycles regulated to between 29-33 days every month.

The month I fell pg I was also taking a vitamin b6 complex and first month of a selenium supplement.

They do say consult a herbalist though as its a strong herb. Must confess I didnt though!

CountryCob Thu 08-Aug-13 15:09:27

Not heard of this herb before for conception I do give it to my horse in a specialist supplement on adviced doses to reduce his stallion like behaviour and a small amount works for a large horse very strong stuff I would think twice before taking it myself without advice

Lolly12 Thu 08-Aug-13 15:27:51

Agree with RaRaz. I did my own research and felt comfortable taking it but getting expert advice if you can afford it wouldn't hurt.

I had success with AC in regulating and reducing cycle length from 40-60 days to around 33 days (I have mild PCOS). I then conceived my DS so stopped taking it once I found out I was pregnant (I took it throughout my cycle). I was temping and I don't think I was ovulating before but after about three months of taking it started seeing a temperature shift then conceived next cycle. Had no other side effects at all.

MrsR1881 Thu 08-Aug-13 21:23:21

My cycles have ranged from 23-30 days but I think my LP is 11-13 days. I have been diagnosed with Ovarian Cysts and TTC since Dec (until I found I had the cysts) so started taking Vitex to regulate my hormonal balance which caused the cysts. Apparently you need to take the herb for 6mths to get the real benefit and I won't really know if its making a difference for a while, but read more positive results than negative. It's always worth a try!! Good luck x

Nottalotta Thu 08-Aug-13 22:09:09

Countrycob interesting - i have a late gelded welsh cob that is a bit of a tit (gelded at 5, stallion like behaviour) do you think it would help? How much do you give and where do you get it? ......sorry OP!

CountryCob Fri 09-Aug-13 16:37:31

Hello have written a couple of replies and they won't load may be too long so here is the shortened version- rigcalm from global herbs is Angus Castus and magnesium works for me start new year on one scoop twice a day for 16'3 horse build up as needed to max three scoops twice a day in spring and end about now mostly as that is the worst over and it is expensive but I need it so stick with it makes him happier and life much easier hope it works for you and if you find a cheaper way please let me know xxx

CountryCob Fri 09-Aug-13 16:42:26

That has worked must be the length of previous message about canter pirouettes on hacks - completely unachievable in school obvs - just because a mare has gone by it stops his stupid behaviour in spring and takes edge off makes him happier and listen to me more have know it to work for others to is worth a try might want to take the label off if at nosey yard as riggy horses have such bad reputations and the pic of the rearing horse on the packet doesn't help!grin

jaykay987 Mon 12-Aug-13 15:35:35

Aggghhh.....I'm cd1 today. Can't decide whether to take it or not.

Do I? Don't I? Do I? Don't I? .........

I'm so indecisive!

jaykay987 Mon 12-Aug-13 17:00:00

I've gone for it. I'll let you know if its successful for me!

AFreudianSlip Mon 12-Aug-13 18:59:07

Im in the same boat. PCO, cycles ranging from 50-100 days. This has been my first month on Agnus Castus and my cycle was 35 days. I'm feeling positive about it. I took it throughout my cycle starting on CD1, and although it could be pure coincidence this is my first normal length cycle since I came off the pill in November. My last few were also very light but this was 'normal'.

Good luck.

jaykay987 Wed 28-Aug-13 16:00:14

So....not sure if its linked or not...

But Im currently on cd16. I ovulated on cd 17 lat month. I am still waiting for my fixed CB advanced smiley this month, so it will be at least 3days later. Not sure if this is linked to Agnus Castus? Or just a coincidence.

I have definitely been having a lot more ovulation pains than normal. I noticed more last month than before ttc(which Im putting down to the fact I was more intone with my body and noting every twinge!). But this month I can feel considerably more going on inside and for a longer period of time. My flashing smiley was two days last month. It's been 5days so far this month.

So I can definitively conclude month 1 Agnus Castus did not shorten my cycle! Damn it!

I've been doing more research online. I've now read Agnus Castus significant.y increases your probability of releasing more than one egg at a time. Not sure if this is a good, or a bad thing...!grin I always wanted to be a twin!

blueamber Wed 28-Aug-13 16:19:07

I didn't know that about the multiple eggs!

It could be a coincidence about your later ovulation though, you've only been taking it for a few weeks. But it could be caused by the AC as well. Hope it happens soon!

jaykay987 Wed 28-Aug-13 16:26:29

Yes, I think it's unlikely to be linked. I've only been taking it 16days, so will keep it up through to ov this month.

Through doing more investigation, lots of people do have negative stories (slightly lengthens cycle /headaches/period pains) but a significant number more rave about it. So I'll continue as planned!grin

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