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5mo with awful trapped wind - please suggest something O haven't already tried!

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PeggyCarter Fri 08-Jun-12 18:44:47

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PeggyCarter Fri 08-Jun-12 18:48:21

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Debs75 Fri 08-Jun-12 18:49:51

So going back to basics, do you wind him after a feed? A really good way to wind, especially if they don't like the back patting is to hold them under their arms and let them sway gently. It helps stretch/lengthen their body and can be good for getting wind up. If wind comes up it shouldn't then go through.
Apart from that I am clueless as I didn't wind my 4, partly through laziness and mostly because they weren't very windy

PeggyCarter Fri 08-Jun-12 18:51:41

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ZhenThereWereTwo Fri 08-Jun-12 18:58:47

lactose intolerance? try colief drops. My husband and DD1 have this and get incredibly windy unless they have lactose free milk. You can express a small amount of milk and give with the drops before a feed to see if it makes a difference.

ZhenThereWereTwo Fri 08-Jun-12 19:02:41

Sorry just saw you had tried colief.

My winding tip is the didgeridoo:

Holding on knee or in tiger in tree hold put your mouth to his back exactly where stomach would be. Open mouth wide and breath out warm air whilst making low sound like didgeridoo. Alternate with patting and rubbing in whatever position you find best.

Also cranial osteopathy is meant to be good for these things, but take extra nappies and changes of clothes as I have heard that they do monster poos afterwards.

ReportMeNow Fri 08-Jun-12 19:07:31

Some suggestions:

Wind often, not just at the end or in the middle but every few minutes.

Bath with you/OH, tummy to tummy, as warm as can take it and then on his back with some baby massage. Baby massage, clockwise, flats of hand and then bringing his knees up to his tummy.

Popping him in a sling in the day so your movement helps it come up and warmth helps ease the pain

An Amby Nest for sleeping?

PeggyCarter Fri 08-Jun-12 19:07:40

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ReportMeNow Fri 08-Jun-12 19:21:15

Sometimes Gaviscon has the effect of blocking things up, so the wind has no outlet, it just builds - certainly was the case for dc3. A gentle laxative approved by the GP/HV, tummy massage and a spot of Vaseline on the 'exit' might help.

HeathRobinson Fri 08-Jun-12 19:29:05

Not sure if it'll help but one of ours was hard to wind and we found walking upstairs holding her against you, with her looking backwards over your shoulder, iyswim, was really effective.

pod3030 Fri 08-Jun-12 19:42:24

i find the bicycling legs good for my dd, then holding legs to chest to release any trapped wind. also smoothing the tummy just below the navel,with the side of your hand, downwards then again with the legs to chest almost like a crouch position.

AlfieBear87 Fri 08-Jun-12 19:44:56

I've found that sitting baby on your knee facing you, holding them under their arms and gently bobbing them up and down (often accompanied by "horsey horsey don't you stop....") is a good way of getting wind up.

Also good is holding them under the arms and gently pull them upwards to open up the ribcage a bit - gives the wind room to move.

The other thing we found effective is lying baby on your knees (on their back) with legs closest to you, then doing bicycle movements with their legs.

Baby massage classes are often quite good at teaching different ways to get up wind. One is to do small circular movements using the flat fingertips of 2 fingers (applying very gentle pressure) in a circle around the belly button in a clockwise direction. I think you'll be able to find a better explanation if you Google it!

Good luck, the wind does seem to get better as they get older!

PoppyWearer Fri 08-Jun-12 19:52:39

Oh, you have my sympathy OP!

I second the baby massage suggestion.

We used to give DD a warm bath in a tummy tub before bed. She would usually poo in the bath, but it seemed to help. Followed by a baby massage.

With DS (DC2) as soon as he could roll over, he started sleeping on his front, bum in air. He farts a LOT in his sleep, but he sleeps better for it (now 9mo).

I know all the SIDS advice about front-sleeping, but...

rockinhippy Fri 08-Jun-12 19:54:54

Are you BFing ?? if so it could be down to YOUR diet - I had the same problem with my own DD & was advised to cut out any LAYERED foods this means everything that grows in layers - from onions to lettuce

Also chemical food additives can also pass through into breast milk & cause skin & stomach trouble - benzoate preservatives, MSG & artificial sweeteners are the worse for tiny stomachs

I tried everything, even specialist baby massage etc nothing really worked 100% - Cutting these out of MY diet had my own DD right as rain over night

Shesparkles Fri 08-Jun-12 19:55:34

If you have stairs in your house what helped my kids was to hold them upright against you shoulder and go downstairs very jerkily, kind of jumping down each stair. Obviously supporting their head and back, but so you got a good 'jolt' as you went down each stair.
Sorry you're going through this, it's hellish for the baby and for you.

NatashaBee Fri 08-Jun-12 20:00:02

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PeggyCarter Fri 08-Jun-12 20:12:22

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rockinhippy Fri 08-Jun-12 20:20:55

Ok thats good, easier to find the culprit & I was surprised how much difference it made, my problem turned out to be a tiny bit of lettuce in a sandwhich

look out for - Leek, onion, Scallions etc, Sprouts, any type of cabbage, any lettuce etc -

Also I forgot - spicey foods can also cause problems -

& if none of this works, it could be lactose or dairy intolerance, though from what I know, thats more likely if you or Dad have any problems with it

good luck & hope you find something that helps, I remember too well how miserable it is to see them in so much pain sad

narmada Sat 09-Jun-12 20:41:32

Bit of a puzzle, eh?? I wonder if there's something else dietary going on.

Are you totally rigorous about the dairy and soy avoidance - e.g., no soy leicithin, whey powder, no mammalian (e.g., goats, sheep's milk or milk products of any kind??

I think the wind thing (e.g., swallowing wind and not being able to bring it up) is probably a red herring unless of course he is swallowing large volumes of air on account of his lip tie. IIRC most intestinal gas is produced by gut flora, not by swallowing air.

Do you by any chance have a massive oversupply of milk (e.g., huge chubby baby, continuiously greeny-coloured poos, milk spurting everywhere??). oversupply of milk can cause baby to ingest large quantities of lactose rich milk although you might think the colief would have sorted it out if so...

narmada Sat 09-Jun-12 20:42:52

Just read another post on someone else's thread which suggests cutting out caffeine. Might be worth a try?

Sneezecakesmama Sat 09-Jun-12 21:33:48

I agree with Narmada. Swallowing air is a bit of a red herring. Many societies have never winded babies. I would go with some kind of food intolerance and do an exclusion diet being very careful to take extra vits and minerals, especially vit d if you are cutting dairy.

PeggyCarter Sat 09-Jun-12 21:48:38

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