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Toddler with trapped wind at night

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Tellytub Mon 02-Mar-09 09:16:39

Hi, I am new to mumsnet. I have a ds 18 months, who has suffered terrible tummy pain and trapped wind since birth, being unable to sleep for any length of time at night. He has seen so many docs but we are told that he will most likely grow out of it. We have had trials avoiding all sorts of foods but it seems that all food upsets him. I am constantly searching the internet on information on toddlers with abdominal pain and trapped wind and came across a message on mumsnet from Fimbles who has dd, same age as my ds, with near exact symptoms. Alas the message was posted at the end of 2003. I am desperate to find out if fimbles found a cure for her dd but unable to contact her by CAT messaging. If anyone knows or is in contact with fimbles I would be most grateful if you would let her know of my message. If anyone else has any advice to offer please help. My son has recently been started on Lactulose 10 ml twice daily and Senna 10 ml at night. Initially he passed a lot of wind and slept pain-free for 5 nights but his symptoms recurred and he has been in agony again for 2 weeks. There is also a question of silent reflux and he has been on Ranitidine syrup for quite a while but again we are not really sure if this helps. He also now seems to be in pain, holding his bottom, when passing stools which is maybe once or twice a day.

Bear26 Sun 28-May-17 05:10:07

Just thought I'd let u know what just worked for my one year old if anyone's going stir crazy trying to find something to help with the screaming. Bounce them on your knee, really quickly, and short bounces, like when your on a nerve and your leg twitches. It's just turned my screaming crying baby into a snoring one in about 2 minutes.

Cezuk Tue 16-May-17 23:53:10

Hi I'm glad I found this post and feel better that I'm not the only mum going through this Ruby is 3 and a half. Always suffered with her stomach and when she was younger had silent reflux and colic. Best thing was going on to movicol it help her poo as she used to struggle so much although she been on for adleast a year now. She still wakes up in constant pain most nights I have demanded that o be referred back to pediatrician as I am sure she has an intolerance but can't pin point it. I am going mad I hope we get a answer soon stay strong mums and keep going back to GP as you know when there is something wrong with your baby xx

user1484784390 Thu 19-Jan-17 00:30:50

hi, i have had the same problem with my lo. all the drs keep saying is that its colic but i know it isnt so i tryed colief which has worked a treat, you can get it at chemists but a bit expensive and some drs will perscribe it. hope it helps i would recomend you try it, it takes the lactose out of the formula milk. dont know about breast milk? good luck

Hayley25 Sun 15-Jan-17 13:22:21

Harlands11mum I am really interested in your story and wondered what happened?

Hayley25 Sun 15-Jan-17 00:24:10

Found this post very interesting as going through this at the moment what happened with your son?

JGT1CC Tue 01-Mar-16 03:43:08

Hello mums,
Gas is a quite common problem among toddlers and rarely a cause for concern. But when gas does not pass easily, it leads to pain and other symptoms that parents understandably want to alleviate as quickly as possible.

Some causes of gas in toddlers include use of antibiotic medications, lactose intolerance, eating foods that increase flatulence, not chewing food thoroughly, swallowing large amounts of air while eating or drinking and not drinking enough water.

Immature digestive tract that results in rapid movement of the food through the digestive tract, not allowing adequate time for absorption is another common reason behind gas in small children.

The first sign of gas pain in a toddler is crying that is sharper, more intense and frantic than their typical cry. In addition, the toddler will be more fussy than usual and may draw his legs up toward the belly, not want to eat, have difficulty sleeping and not have a smooth bowel movement. You may also notice more flatulence and burping than usual.

LMS66 Sat 30-Jan-16 11:32:23

Hi Nic198...
Not sure why but I've only just seen your post... I usually get an email when someone adds to the thread...
I too had never posted anything before but just had to regarding these issues...
We have since seen a dietitian and she has given us a booklet on how to reintroduce FODMAPs... The leaflet is actually called Reintroducing FODMAPs... It's a good leaflet and guides you on how to reintroduce the foods... Basically you have to do a three day trial with each food and there is space in the booklet for tracking what you do and to make notes of symptoms etc... You then remove the food again and try the next one... Obviously it will take ages so we won't see the dietitian for a good few months again... If you tell your doctor your child is following this diet they too will refer you to a peadiatrician dietitian... Or you could just get the leaflet from somewhere... I will try and find it online for you and come back to you...
I'm so glad you have had such good results like us...

Spall Fri 29-Jan-16 23:27:56

Hi there,
I know that this post is older, but I too dying for answers. My baby had colic and reflux along with a milk and soy allergy. I was breastfeeding and cut multiple things out of my diet, but we still had really bad days. At almost nine months we started neocate and it was a dream. She slept thru the night for the first time ever so I had to make the terribly difficult choice to quit breastfeeding. We started on solids soon after and again started the night waking. I had avoided every single allergen and at 16 months she still drinks three bottles of neocate a day. She currently tolerates blueberries, bananas, turkey, avocado, peas, chicken, carrots and broccoli without any night wakings. Every time i try any new food like beef, ham, grapes, rice, sweet potato, white potato etc, we have a bad night. We have been to a GI specialist multiple times without being any closer to figuring out the problem. We saw an allergist when she was around 14 months and everything came back negative on the scratch test including dairy and soy. I have yet to try these foods with her because when we tried soy formula she vomited profusely for hours. She wants to eat other foods, and I desperately want to oblige. All of you ladies who share my experiences, did your little ones just finally grow out of it like they say?? Please help! I'm a full time night shift nurse trying to keep my little girl out of day care until these issues resolve and I'm beyond the point of exhausted. She is currently on Prevacid and we give her gripe water as well. Sometimes it helps, but not really.

Lucielou2015 Thu 10-Dec-15 11:51:44

Just an update, we have had a good week and a half, no pain at night and sleeping so much better. Only one or two wakes. He is dairy free and now think the soy formula isn't agreeing with him so trying to find something else as he needs fattening up.
Not sure if it's the dairy free or the antibiotics that helped. Fingers crossed it stays this way.

Nic198 Wed 09-Dec-15 21:21:17

Hi LMS66
I feel compelled to write here despite never having done before. I have to say your post has been the best thing I have found on the Internet for a long time. We have had a year of exactly what everyone on here has described, wind at night with my son in pain wailing and writhing around and just no kind of settle sleep. Tried so many different things- dairy free, wheat free, gaviscon from docs and having seen this post before with no real suggestions of a cure I saw your latest post and thought it was worth a try. So glad I did as we have had similar results. After a year of interrupted sleep he now pretty much sleeps through since the day I started following the low fodmap diet with him. Similarly he seems to tolerate cows milk but I am yet to try reintroducing other foods so don't know what the exact triggers are. But, basically, thank you, and I would encourage anyone who has a child struggling with this to give it a go

LMS66 Sun 29-Nov-15 21:52:48

Yes please let me know how you get in once he has finished the course of antibiotics... I hope it makes a difference for you... But does that mean he has always had this tummy bug if the meds help???... It's all so confusing...
Look forward to an update...

Lucielou2015 Fri 27-Nov-15 11:16:59

Our test results have come back and our boy has a tummy bug. Our peadiatrician said it can cause tummy cramps but usually diarrhoea so doesn't think it's the problem. She said that people are full of bacteria that doesn't cause any problems. We are about to start 3 days of antibiotics and I'm trying not to get too hopeful. The blood tests also show that something is happening but he has a cough and a cold at the moment so it could be just that. We have to do another blood test in a month when he isn't sick to make sure everything is ok.
I'll let u know how we go.

LMS66 Thu 19-Nov-15 19:59:52

Ok... Thank you...
Good luck with everything... Try not to worry about the blood test... Easy to say but our little one had to have an op at only a couple of months old so I know how hard it is... He will be fab... They are brave little things... We were way more upset than him... (Beside ourselves actually)... I think he just thought he had a little sleep...
Let us know how you get on...

Lucielou2015 Thu 19-Nov-15 06:23:52

She also felt his tummy and said it feels fine and as as he is healthy in all other areas she doesn't think that we needs to have an ultrasound on his tummy.

Lucielou2015 Thu 19-Nov-15 06:21:27

We are in Australia so things might be slightly different.
Our paediatrician appointment was ok. We are doing stool and urine tests to make sure he has no tummy bugs. Also having a blood test to check Iron levels. That's going to be horrible!
She suggested to go on soy formula as he needs to put on weight and I want to stop breastfeeding.
She said to stay dairy free for 3 months and do a food diary.
She also suggested he might have a sleep disorder but I don't think it's that.
She said there aren't any reliable food allergy/intolerance tests you can do at this age.
My neighbour went to a naturopath and they did a finger prick test for allergies so I might try to find out more about that.
Good luck!

LMS66 Wed 18-Nov-15 20:12:41

Our son is big for his age and on the 99th Centile... But his dad is 6ft 2 and I'm 5ft 7... Please could you let me know what kind of tests they offer as I'd like to go armed with info when our paediatrician appt finally comes through...
Good luck tomorrow...

Lucielou2015 Wed 18-Nov-15 00:33:14

Thank you!

Such an amazing difference.

If the paediatrician can't help on Thursday then we will try that. I'm guessing she will do a few tests as we have been 3 times already about his crying and pain at night and the next step was to investigate further.

How is your boys weight? Our boy is small for his age although he was born an average size.

Thanks, I'll keep you updated

LMS66 Tue 17-Nov-15 21:11:48

Basically he is absolutely fine with cows milk... (We use organic)... I was worried too but at just over eleven and a half months he went straight to cows milk and he had been exclusively breastfed until then... He is now thirteen months... I was worried he would react badly to it or the bottle would add air to his stomach but so far so good... As I said earlier it is so much easier just keeping track of his diet rather than both of ours...
I think it's easy for us to think of the obvious ones like a dairy or wheat intolerance but for us it was certain fruit and veg releasing to much gas in his stomach... We are hoping that as he gets bigger he will just grow out of it...
I can't explain the difference in him... He has gone from waking all through the night and screaming in pain to sleeping through from 7.30pm-7.30am... Obviously we still have the occasional teething nights etc...
I think the LOW FODMAP diet seems daunting at first but you can adapt it to everyday life and include things you know he is ok with... Instead of pasta and cous cous etc... He has rice, buckwheat noodles... (Lucky boy... Haha... They are so bland... But ok mixed with bolognese etc...) potatoes and rice pasta etc... And we never give him fruit after lunchtime... So instead of having his fruit at lunch and dinner, he now has it at breakfast and lunch... We also make all the normal dishes like bolognese, stews etc... but replace the onion and garlic etc... with a veg base that he can have... We batch cook for him and have it all portioned up in the freezer... So once it's all cooked it seems easy to feed him everyday... And he can have proper bread at breakfast as he is ok with it... We are so happy just to be sleeping and that he is no longer in pain!!!... We also give him Neuners baby organic tea which we make in the morning and he drinks throughout the day...
Obviously this is our experience and your son could have a different problem or intolerance but I wanted to share our experience in case it helps someone else...
Please keep me posted...

LMS66 Tue 17-Nov-15 20:42:09

Here goes again...

LMS66 Tue 17-Nov-15 20:41:38

Ahhh... I just lost my long message to you...

Lucielou2015 Tue 17-Nov-15 01:48:46

Also, is he ok with cows milk? I thought that was something that wasnt tolerated very well? Only asking as I want to wean my little boy.

Lucielou2015 Tue 17-Nov-15 01:43:14

Wow! I'm just reading through that website and looking over the list of foods to avoid. How horrible! It would be hard for a baby. Fingers crossed we don't have to do that!

Lucielou2015 Tue 17-Nov-15 01:33:20

Thank you so much. I'll have a look at the site.

I suffer from a sore tummy too which has been on and off for the last 4 years and have had so many tests. I've just given up on it.
I'm still breastfeeding but very ready to ween as I'm so exhausted.
I saw a naturopath who suggested to try dairy and wheat free for a month which is hard to do for both of us. She told me about the food combinations and how I shouldn't eat starch with proteins. It can get a bit overwhelming when tired.
We have an appointment with our paediatrician in a couple of days. So we will see what happens there then try the diet again.
I will let you know what happens.
Thank you

LMS66 Sun 15-Nov-15 22:08:40

I forgot to say... If our son has onion or garlic he is in agony... These seem to be his biggest triggers but probably varies from person to person...

LMS66 Sun 15-Nov-15 22:04:00

Since posting last on 15th sept we have followed a low FODMAP diet and for us it was literally like a light switch result... We still have issues now and again when trying different foods etc... But definitely worth a try... It's all to do with how different foods release gasses in the stomach... Our son was in so much pain every night with trapped wind... He was breast fed until a year and would react to foods I had eaten!!!... It is so much easier to keep track of just his diet now he is on cows milk and my diet is not an issue too...
I obviously can't say whether this will help you guys but worth a try... We are still waiting to see a paediatrician/dietician... Our Gp is aware of the diet and was happy for us to follow it whilst waiting for the appt with the hospital...
The diet also restricts wheat but our son can tolerate small amounts... So best to follow it and introduce things slowly...
Good luck... It took us months and months for the docs to even show an interest after being told it was colic and he would eventually grow out of it...
Try this website IBSDIETS.ORG it has all the info and lists of foods that they can/can't eat...
Please let me know how you get on as I would be very interested if this helps you as it has us...
I also suffer from IBS and my symptoms almost disappeared whilst I was following the diet when breast feeding...
Good luck!!!

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