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Should my daughter go dairy free?

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chuffinalong Tue 07-Mar-17 09:29:59

Hi, my 12 year old daughter is 5 foot 6 and is over weight by about 1 stone. She also gets spots and has frequent tummy aches. She is fully developed and started her periods over a year ago. I've been reading about the health implications of dairy, and think she would benefit from giving it up. I was going to do a trial for 3 months, then see if there is any difference in her skin, stomach aches and weight. I'm also doing it as I have PCOS, eczema and I get spots.
The problem is with my daughter, I think it's going to be really hard to get enough calcium into her. There isn't that much she will eat of the calcium rich non dairy foods. She'll eat baked beans, nuts, homies, dried fruit and she'll drink orange juice. Anything veg related would have to be blended so she couldn't see/ taste it. She has learning disabilities and possible autism and doesn't like change or trying new things. I don't know if I'm just going to end up making life extremely difficult for myself and weather or not it would be worth it?

dementedpixie Tue 07-Mar-17 20:39:53

Should you not see the gp/speak to a dietician before cutting out a whole food group?

Iamastonished Tue 07-Mar-17 20:53:32

What are homies?

SerialReJoiner Tue 07-Mar-17 20:57:33

Dairy isn't a good source of calcium, inspire of what the dairy farmers may tell us. Have you researched vegan websites and recipes? Dairy free is possible, but not easy. Milk derivatives are in loads of things.

SerialReJoiner Tue 07-Mar-17 20:57:49

*in spite

highinthesky Tue 07-Mar-17 20:59:06

No, no, no.

She is a growing girl and her bones need all the help they can get. Withdraw dairy from your own diet if you want to, but not DD's. It is not causing her to be overweight, or her acne. Encourage her to exercise daily instead.

If she has a genuine intolerance to milk it will be the lactose in it.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Tue 07-Mar-17 21:03:18

high dairy was definitely cause acne in my case! Only stopped eating/ drinking it last sept and the difference is amazing! I was on the pill for years to deal with acne and hen it turned out it was dairy.

highinthesky Tue 07-Mar-17 21:04:05

SerialReJoiner - that's the classic line every vegan comes out with. Lack of accessible calcium and iron is what made me quit veganism after a year, and I went back to my veggie diet.

I believe the science before any vegan theory. And before you ask, yes I hate the fact that cows are kept gestational and their calves robbed of their mother's milk but nor do I want to end up osteoporotic. The answer is Ahimsa (cruelty-free) milk.

highinthesky Tue 07-Mar-17 21:05:57

There is a difference between adult acne, and that in a 12 yo girl!

It's far more likely to be weight-related / hormonal so I would tackle this first through exercise.

SerialReJoiner Tue 07-Mar-17 21:09:15

There are plenty of humans who are dairy free, aren't there?

I'm not vegan, for what it's worth.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Tue 07-Mar-17 21:10:39

My DD is 6 and for the last year she's. Een dairy free. Before that we had switched to goat products because cow's ones were triggering her eczema. Last year it she started reacting to goat's products too. She's growing well, milk really isn't the be all and end all.

Wolfiefan Tue 07-Mar-17 21:12:01

I wouldn't. Not without a dietician's help.

WhatInTheWorldIsGoingOn Tue 07-Mar-17 21:20:10

The milk alternatives offer as much calcium as milk if she would drink those?

I am dairy free as is my daughter. My daughter is allergic to milk from birth so has never had it. There are a lot of ways to get calcium that aren't from dairy. You just need to try harder to find them!

yumchoc Tue 07-Mar-17 21:22:04

But consult a dietitian first
Use a supplement for calcium and vitamin D and use dairy substitute like aplro soya yogurt and rice milk flora do a good butter substitute

Ohyesiam Tue 07-Mar-17 21:43:03

In most of Asia dairy products are either not eaten at all, or in much lower amounts than in the west, and they have low incidence of bone problems later in life. Lots had been written about dairy containing lots of calcium, but not necessarily in a form that the body can use. Have a look at vegan websites.

I've had to change my diet and do lots of excluding things to get to the bottom of health problems, and I've found naturopaths are the practitioners who have the best grasp on how to get insight into diet related health problems.( but chat to them first, as there are some who specialise in diet) .in My experience dieticians and nutritionists have been much much less useful.

chuffinalong Thu 09-Mar-17 15:58:08

Thank you, I think I'm going to let my daughter eat organic cheese and yogurt once a day. She likes almond milk in tea, so that's fine.
She was eating/ drinking a lot of dairy, so I researched it and thought that the growth hormones were probably to blame for her spots and weight.
I'm going to go dairy free to try to help my PCOS and to reduce my risk of ovarian cancer. (This has been documented in the BMJ) I've had as much fertility treatment as I'm allowed in a life time, so that may put me at a higher risk of ovarian cancer.

chuffinalong Thu 09-Mar-17 16:04:23

I would also like my daughter to see a dietitian. I've been to see the GP to be put in touch with one, but he said he's not concerned about her weight, although she could do with loosing a stone to be in the middle of her healthy range.

shewolfmum Thu 09-Mar-17 23:59:44

Don't go near soya or flora...awful stuff!

chuffinalong Fri 10-Mar-17 16:05:33

Soya yogurt tastes lovely! I did try a coconut/ strawberry one but the taste of coconut is too strong

shewolfmum Fri 10-Mar-17 22:34:19

Soya is not very good for to avoid

DrinkFeckArseGirls Sat 11-Mar-17 13:01:37

you can make your own yoghurt with "milk"
if your oreference if you xan be fucked unlike me.

We use cashew milk - expensive but I buy buy when on offer. True about going easy on soya but I'm happy to use soya yoghurt - the actual amount of soya is negligeable and it's fermented. I think yoi will just need to trial and error and come to your own conclusions, OP. It's an ongoing process for us.

MedSchoolRat Sat 11-Mar-17 13:59:10

@chuffinalong, could you post a link to the BMJ research that links milk intake to risk of ovarian cancer? I couldn't find that quickly.

I'm curious what other bad health impacts you've read about, linked to drinking milk, and where you read them. Thanks!

chuffinalong Sun 12-Mar-17 10:00:51

Hi, I can't do links, but I searched google, then BMJ dairy ovarian cancer, mortality. I also searched dairy intolerance BMJ. I hope this helps. I also looked on sites such as acne. Org.

chuffinalong Sun 12-Mar-17 10:05:09

Cashew milk is our favourite so far! Too bad it's so blooming expensive!

Soya does have hormones, but at least they are not from an animal, that has been given extra hormones as well as its own, plus antibiotics...
I'm going to still have soya yogurt as the amount of soya is small and it's fermented. I'm going to research soya some more though.

dementedpixie Sun 12-Mar-17 10:29:32

Cows in UK arent given growth hormones and those that have had antibiotics don't have their milk put in the food chain. Rules are different in usa to uk/Europe so I'd check the proper facts first

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